Thinking of buying a Rocco, which model?

[Lee170]

Ok I'll go and have a butchers. There's a 10 plate not that far from me so I'll nip down and have a good old mosey inside it, only problem is it's over my budget
May have to stick with the shitty steering wheel

[Harry_VW]

Did anything else change from 58-59?
Any subtle changes to looks or anything else?

If I remember correctly from I was looking for mine. The three most important updates for me where the steering wheel, the climate control knobs and the engine power. The 09 and 08 plates were around 198bhp and the 59's and 10's onwards were 207bhp. That's probably not exactly right but it's something like that!

[rpsmith79]

Did anything else change from 58-59?
Any subtle changes to looks or anything else?

If I remember correctly from I was looking for mine. The three most important updates for me where the steering wheel, the climate control knobs and the engine power. The 09 and 08 plates were around 198bhp and the 59's and 10's onwards were 207bhp. That's probably not exactly right but it's something like that!

No not quite, there was a strange period that had the updated steering wheel and white MFD, but the older climate control and 198 bhp engine........... i know because that is what i have on a 59 plate

The steering wheel and MFD update are worth paying the extra for IMO, highly doubt a 9 bhp difference would even be noticable

[Jester]

I've got the 2.0 TSi R Line 210 bhp and I love it, has decent economy and flies when you put the pedal down. DSG is also incredible!

[Lee170]

If I can't stretch to a 59 plate or indeed find a decent one local. Can I retro fit a newer steering wheel or is it to much hassle and cost?

[rpsmith79]

If I can't stretch to a 59 plate or indeed find a decent one local. Can I retro fit a newer steering wheel or is it to much hassle and cost?

I did look into this myself, and i figured it would probably cost a few hundred quid as not only do you need the steering wheel (which can be picked up on eBay) but you need the airbag too as they are specific to the wheel, and they aren't cheap

Also, since the electronics were switch to MK6 electronics, i'm not even sure if the steering wheel buttons would be compatible, but i'm sure someone else more knowledgeable will be along to confirm

[rpsmith79]

Old Steering Wheel, and red MFD



Newer Steering Wheel (much, much nicer), and white on black MFD

[Lee170]

Ah yeah I see, the newer wheel is much nicer, arrgh

[rpsmith79]

Ah yeah I see, the newer wheel is much nicer, arrgh

Yep, it certainly is, and as it's mostly what you see/feel when driving, to me it was quite a big deal to have it

[Paddy_R]

OK, here goes. I'll throw a spanner into the works. I have a 140 TDi with DSG box and a few other bits, I've had it 18+ months so feel qualified to comment.

While it's been a good car I would honestly recommend anyone to think long and hard before buying. It's the most impractical car I've ever owned (my last car was a Clio RS200 cup with Recaro seats so I know impractical), and yes I know it's a 3 door coupe but simple things like the size of the boot opening and the height of the lip of it make it very difficult to get larger items into/out of it. I'm also 6ft tall so exiting junctions can be fun as I can't see fully without moving physically in the seat as pillars get in the way. The rear view mirror needs to be about 1 inch or so lower and the seat and steering wheel could do with going back another inch too. The rear seats are for children/short people only as there is limited head room, full size people will not fit. Also remember this car is a 4 seater. The doors are huge making it difficult to park and the interior door handle is way to far forward to be of use if the wind catches it. There are NO roof rails to catch rain water so if you wax your car be prepared to get soaked as you get in on occasion (I know I have been). The handling is OK, not outstanding but acceptable, but then I did come from one of the best handling front drive car available so this has maybe tainted my views on this.

This was my first diesel and it will most certainly be my last. The fuel economy benefits are not it for what you lose not having a petrol engine.

Yes it looks great (still fresh even though it's 8 years or so old now I believe) but buy after good long test drive and check its for you and buy knowing all this. I still like my Scirocco though wish I'd bought a petrol version. I also don't regret buying it though I won't be buying another and am currently looking at a Mk7 Golf GTi or R to replace it with.

[andyy]

If you're after a diseasel I'd look for the 177! I bought mine (2.0L TDI 177 RLine) around 2 years ago and sold it 8 weeks later. It was an impulse buy but the wrong engine for me! Anyway, there were loads of high spec (leather, pan roof, Bluetooth, cruise, RNS310/510) 177 demo cars back then so there should be some coming onto the market given the average time some people keep them for.

[Cuprabob]

If you're after a diseasel I'd look for the 177! I bought mine (2.0L TDI 177 RLine) around 2 years ago and sold it 8 weeks later. It was an impulse buy but the wrong engine for me! Anyway, there were loads of high spec (leather, pan roof, Bluetooth, cruise, RNS310/510) 177 demo cars back then so there should be some coming onto the market given the average time some people keep them for.

A bit out of his budget I would imagine.

[andyy]

If you're after a diseasel I'd look for the 177! I bought mine (2.0L TDI 177 RLine) around 2 years ago and sold it 8 weeks later. It was an impulse buy but the wrong engine for me! Anyway, there were loads of high spec (leather, pan roof, Bluetooth, cruise, RNS310/510) 177 demo cars back then so there should be some coming onto the market given the average time some people keep them for.

A bit out of his budget I would imagine.

You're probably right. It seems to be an engine that's not really mentioned much..

[Harry_VW]

OK, here goes. I'll throw a spanner into the works. I have a 140 TDi with DSG box and a few other bits, I've had it 18+ months so feel qualified to comment.

While it's been a good car I would honestly recommend anyone to think long and hard before buying. It's the most impractical car I've ever owned (my last car was a Clio RS200 cup with Recaro seats so I know impractical), and yes I know it's a 3 door coupe but simple things like the size of the boot opening and the height of the lip of it make it very difficult to get larger items into/out of it. I'm also 6ft tall so exiting junctions can be fun as I can't see fully without moving physically in the seat as pillars get in the way. The rear view mirror needs to be about 1 inch or so lower and the seat and steering wheel could do with going back another inch too. The rear seats are for children/short people only as there is limited head room, full size people will not fit. Also remember this car is a 4 seater. The doors are huge making it difficult to park and the interior door handle is way to far forward to be of use if the wind catches it. There are NO roof rails to catch rain water so if you wax your car be prepared to get soaked as you get in on occasion (I know I have been). The handling is OK, not outstanding but acceptable, but then I did come from one of the best handling front drive car available so this has maybe tainted my views on this.

This was my first diesel and it will most certainly be my last. The fuel economy benefits are not it for what you lose not having a petrol engine.

Yes it looks great (still fresh even though it's 8 years or so old now I believe) but buy after good long test drive and check its for you and buy knowing all this. I still like my Scirocco though wish I'd bought a petrol version. I also don't regret buying it though I won't be buying another and am currently looking at a Mk7 Golf GTi or R to replace it with.

I really don't think it is that bad! I find because it only has two rear seats there is more space and plenty of leg room due to the deep seats. My self and all my mates are all over 6ft and no one complains when I drive them around! The driving position is great just lower the seat and pull the steering wheel out. The boot is a good size and can fit golf clubs in diagonally. The door however are very wide and also deep so getting out in a tight space can require imagination

[rpsmith79]

OK, here goes. I'll throw a spanner into the works. I have a 140 TDi with DSG box and a few other bits, I've had it 18+ months so feel qualified to comment.

While it's been a good car I would honestly recommend anyone to think long and hard before buying. It's the most impractical car I've ever owned (my last car was a Clio RS200 cup with Recaro seats so I know impractical), and yes I know it's a 3 door coupe but simple things like the size of the boot opening and the height of the lip of it make it very difficult to get larger items into/out of it. I'm also 6ft tall so exiting junctions can be fun as I can't see fully without moving physically in the seat as pillars get in the way. The rear view mirror needs to be about 1 inch or so lower and the seat and steering wheel could do with going back another inch too. The rear seats are for children/short people only as there is limited head room, full size people will not fit. Also remember this car is a 4 seater. The doors are huge making it difficult to park and the interior door handle is way to far forward to be of use if the wind catches it. There are NO roof rails to catch rain water so if you wax your car be prepared to get soaked as you get in on occasion (I know I have been). The handling is OK, not outstanding but acceptable, but then I did come from one of the best handling front drive car available so this has maybe tainted my views on this.

This was my first diesel and it will most certainly be my last. The fuel economy benefits are not it for what you lose not having a petrol engine.

Yes it looks great (still fresh even though it's 8 years or so old now I believe) but buy after good long test drive and check its for you and buy knowing all this. I still like my Scirocco though wish I'd bought a petrol version. I also don't regret buying it though I won't be buying another and am currently looking at a Mk7 Golf GTi or R to replace it with.

I really don't think it is that bad! I find because it only has two rear seats there is more space and plenty of leg room due to the deep seats. My self and all my mates are all over 6ft and no one complains when I drive them around! The driving position is great just lower the seat and pull the steering wheel out. The boot is a good size and can fit golf clubs in diagonally. The door however are very wide and also deep so getting out in a tight space can require imagination

Indeed, what do you expect from a coupe, if you want practicality you buy a Golf, the whole point of a coupe is style over practicality

And coming from a MINI Cooper, the Rocco is way more practical, if a little less fun in the corners, the MINI is like a go-kart and handles beautifully, but the Rocco feels more planted and more grown up

[Lee170]

It's only for commuting and picking the kids up from school and ferrying them about when needed. We have a new s-max as our main car(3 kids!) so won't need the Rocco for anything practical, I'm 5ft 7 so most cars are big enough for me
Think I'm gonna stick with a petrol as I really enjoyed the test drive in one the other day, plus I only do short journeys, any big distances are usually covered in the s-max.
Thanks for all Comments though so far they are greatly received.

[Mr OCD]

It's only for commuting and picking the kids up from school and ferrying them about when needed. We have a new s-max as our main car(3 kids!) so won't need the Rocco for anything practical, I'm 5ft 7 so most cars are big enough for me
Think I'm gonna stick with a petrol as I really enjoyed the test drive in one the other day, plus I only do short journeys, any big distances are usually covered in the s-max.
Thanks for all Comments though so far they are greatly received.

Agreed... with the short journeys definitely the petrol version. The diesels as great as they are in any form, do take an AGE to warm up as a result I don't trust low mileage diesel cars that are a few years old. IIRC unless you are doing more than 10,000-14,000 miles a year then a diesel isn't really cost effective or good for the long term reliability of the engines.

I'm seriously considering petrol next time round for myself having recently changed the Wife's car from diesel to petrol (1.4 TFSi) and being impressed with both performance and economy from it.

For the Scirocco I suspect the 2.0 TSi is the best compromise of fuel economy and performance. Although I know the 170 / 177 / 184 diesels aren't far behind performance wise and are much better on fuel. However, a remap on the TSi takes it up to around 260bhp... and transforms the car. The diesels aren't going above 205bhp on a remap without additional supporting mods.

[rpsmith79]

I'm seriously considering petrol next time round

Only because you are fed up cleaning all the soot off the arse end

[Lee170]

Would a 58 plate have dab radio as standard or were they introduced later on?
Also how easy is it to retrofit the Bluetooth found in later models in a 58 plate?
And what's it gonna cost me to buy the unit?

[Cuprabob]

VW were behind the curve regarding technology and media and as such DAB only became standard fitment around 2014. Up until then it was a cost option.

If you want DAB and Bluetooth an option would be to retrofit one of the Kenwood VW OEM headunits or a RNS315 with DAB and Bluetooth.

With regards to the OEM Bluetooth module, have a search as there are literally hundreds of threads on it and retrofitting it