Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

[CTRnutter]

were not going to agree on this,

ask yourself this..is there a 5 door Scirocco???

no

so its not a hot hatch, not that any of this even matters a jot, since nothing changes, hence...

this thread is pointless....

Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No) but there is a 4 door, as there is no door on the rear, which why most coupes in one form or another are a 2 door saloon.

I rest my case

No its not a pointless thread, I love a bit of banter, its harmless fun and its interesting to see a difference in opinion I know I have my opinion, but its nice to see other peoples views

[DavidH]

In practical and mechanical terms it's rebodied hothatch ,with a lower curvier, bespoke body. So it's a sports coupe thingy. But it's a hatch, and it's hot so it's a hot hatch (even though traditionally a hot hatch is a performance version of an existing humdrum hatch). It's both, depending on which way you look at it. In terms ofthe feel/experience of the car it's kind of a half way house, in that it's familiar hot hatch stuff, but feels a little more special (to me).

[albertz33]

i dont think you get my drift, or maybe im not getting it across,

my arguement is you cant call a scirocco a hot hatch, because it has no origin as a hatchback, its a purpose built coupe, always was. As for BMW, it started life as a saloon, then turned into a coupe, so it had 4 doors, now 2 doors.

forgive me if im being curt, but im on 12 hour days / 7 days a week, and im working with a bunch of germans who seem hell bent on getting themselves killed "vot does zis mean?? high voltage??"

god alone knows how these people invented this car, they still think mullets are acceptable!

[LCM]

My my - Ive been away for a couple of days and you boys have started fighting already!!!

Obviously a difference of opinion but I am actaully with both of you - it doesn't matter what the f@ck you classify it as the point is that the Roc is sub zero cool, drives like a demon and gets as many looks as any supercar.

Bentley Continental Coupe pulled up along side me today and the driver gave me the thumbs up - I don't suppose you could call his a sportscar or a hot hatch either?????

Maybe we should have a third category on the poll - cooler than anything else in the above categories!!!

Roc On!!

[CTRnutter]

Ha ha sorry guys not meaning to be argumentative, its all cool here I am just having a bit of a debate and albertz33 is the same.... well at least I think we are both on same page.

[robrob]

Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No)

Wrong!, there is a 5 door 3 series....the touring!

[albertz33]

???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!

keep posting! this is the only thing keeping me sane!

but to reiterate

its a coupe

and to be sure, a good argument is the bedrock of democracy
Have at you CRT nutter!

[robrob]

???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!
is the bedrock of democracy

Sorry albertz33, the quote belongs to CTRnutter of course...

[jonallen628]

For me the frameless doors make it a coupe / sports car. Does anyone know of a "hatchback" with frameless doors?

[LCM]

consideration.gif

Its a hatch back and it ain't got door frames!!!

[CTRnutter]

Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No)

Wrong!, there is a 5 door 3 series....the touring!

LOL the touring is exactly that and its not a saloon its an estate!

[CTRnutter]

???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!

keep posting! this is the only thing keeping me sane!

but to reiterate

its a coupe

and to be sure, a good argument is the bedrock of democracy
Have at you CRT nutter!

ha ha

[jonallen628]

consideration.gif

Its a hatch back and it ain't got door frames!!!

That was a little challenge to see if someone could come up with one

[wigit]

mini cooper s is a hot hatch, also impractical and has frameless doors

[tartangti]

I'd actually initially probably have said hot hatch but after reading the comment about the fact that a hot hatch needs to be a 'sporty version of a mainstream car' I guess that given the Scirocco was built from the ground up to be a sports coupe then that's what it is even though most of the parts in it come from other VW hatchbacks!

[easybreeze]

For me the frameless doors make it a coupe / sports car. Does anyone know of a "hatchback" with frameless doors?

BMW 1 series 3 door
Mini Cooper S

[silver130]

Add another option Sports Hatch to the poll and see what happens then

[albertz33]

Add another option Sports Hatch to the poll and see what happens then

[drnick]

Shooms, you've created a monster!!!!