Latest Premium Bluetooth Module

[andreavassallo]

Hi guys,

There seems to be some confusion on the subject. I have the factory fitted premium bluetooth with module 5N0 035 730 B on my scirocco (end 2009 with white MDF+). Basically this module is rSAP only. Now I am about to change this module to a more recent model so I could use the bluetooth functionality with non rSAP phones like the iPhone.

After some searching it seems that the latest models which support this are these two:

3C8 035 730 A (2010/2011)
5N0 035 730 D (2011)

On the internet I found that they are exactly the same... however I don't think that makes sense no? Why two models with different part numbers then?
It is said that the 5N0 035 730 D is the latest one available, however I could not find it in any volkswagon documentation/brochure.

Could anyone kindly shed some light on this?
Also, would such an upgrade need VAG-COM re-coding? Some say yes, others say no... Any ideas?

Thank you all, appreciate your feedback

[peebee]

I've already done this swap on my R, will get you the part number and details.
I didn't need to use VAGCOM.

[peebee]

My R came with the 5N0 035 730 C Module which is Rsap only. I think the D one you mentioned is the lastest, but could still be Rsap only - not sure.

From researching I believe there are 2 modules available, I ordered the 9W7 module from VW Part Code: 7P6 035 730 C
List price is around the £399 mark but I got 10% off at the local VW dealership just for asking and it arrived next business day for collection.

Changeover is easy -
With the ignition off (keys out), pull the current bluetooth module out from under the driver seat
Remove it carefully from the foam box it's in.
Disconnect the cables (gently, they can be stubborn)
Connect up the new module (you will probably find 1 cable is no longer needed, think it goes to the aerial in the car)
Replace in foam under the drivers seat
Switch on ignition and pair up your phone!

Works with iPhone, supports A2DP bluetooth media streaming.
I think the 7P6 035 730 C might only work with White MFD cars.

Checkout Mr Simmo's post here: http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccop ... _Bluetooth

[mickwillow]

Hi peebee
I've just fitted the 7P6 035 730 C unit as a bluetooth retro fix kit off ebay for £230

[peebee]

Think I might have got the pricing wrong, could have been £299 less 10%.
I'll see if I can find the invoice.

[andreavassallo]

Ok guys solved this

I bought and installed the latest module: 5N0 035 730 D (2011)

It works perfectly, even with the IPhone, and no VAG-COM coding was needed... just plug n play!

Maybe I'll post in some photos of it in operation...

Thank you to the guys who have replied, keep it up

[robmathieson]

Is this an upgrade or will it work with RCD510 that has no Bluetooth?

[JohnFol]

I've just got back from my garage having fitted the "D" unit. All seems ok in terms of the phone working. I now get a battery level meter in the MFD and 2 icons for music and bluetooth. What puzzles me is the phone connects (Android HTC), I can make and receive calls but I can't music stream. Also, previous bluetooth kits required a small plug in BT dongle. I havn't fitted one yet it works..

Any advice?

[trix]

Is this an upgrade or will it work with RCD510 that has no Bluetooth?

its an upgrade rob, you need the existing box there to be able to swap it out.

[andreavassallo]

As trix correctly said, what I did was upgrade the factory fitted module 5N0 035 730 B to the latest 5N0 035 730 D module.

I attached both (existing) connections into the module...

Both calls and music streaming work fine

[JohnFol]

An update. Just did a diag from VCDS and have a few issues.

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.0
Data version: 20100630

Friday,11,February,2011,18:14:09:46862

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 47 52 56 77


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 D HW: 5N0 035 730 D
Component: Telefon 009 0511
Revision: -------- Serial number: 35909603069197
Coding: 020000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A01005
ROD: EV_UHVPremi_VW36.rod
VCID: 2952FFFABFA33454

1 Fault Found
13636352 - Control Module Not Coded
U1013 00 [009] - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 196
Mileage: 14932 km
Date: 2011.14.01
Time: 18:13:59


Any suggestions?

[mortygttdi]

Looks like someone forgot to plug your MDI back in to the correct quadlock, you will not get the MDI working until you plug it back into the quadlock that goes directly into the headunit.

And you just need to code the BT to access the media audio.

Darren

[Shaun]

Think I might have got the pricing wrong, could have been £299 less 10%.
I'll see if I can find the invoice.

Nope, the VW price is about £400, so you was right first time

[JohnFol]

Thanks Darren, I was hoping it was something physical rather than me screwing up the coding.

Much appreciated!

[JohnFol]

I just got round to fixing this last night. You were spot on. The loom supplied with the new phone kit does not have a socket and plug for the multi media block connector.

So if anyone is reading this and has the same problem, unclip the blue block connector from the original loom, and reconnect it to the new connector that goes into the radio.

Again, big thanks Darren

[Starshaped]

I have done this upgrade a few times now no problem upgrading from 5N0035730C TO 3C8035730A and works with every phone i have tried. They are superceding it to the 5N0035730D as previously mentioned but it is so new i haven't seen one yet. The cheapest way to get the 3C8 box from a uk dealer is to order 000051473F as Volkswagen have bought out this accesory to combat this problem,basically 000051473F IS A 3c8 box and manual. or you can look on internationa sellers on Ebay and pick on up for about £150.

[mortygttdi]

No problems John glad your now sorted.

Starshaped had a look on the bay for the new 5N0 kit Shaun just paid £220 all in.

Darren

[Shaun]

This is the seller http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWNX:IT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

very good he is too, only thing i will say is the long coding is not there yet on VCDS !!, so its a tad harder to code, although Morty helped with mine, i also got this from the seller


02 01 00 01 01 00 01 00 00 01 00 00
English
Voice Operation - Off
Set 1 Audio
VW microphone
Antenna Diagnostics - off
Telephone baseplate diagnostic - off
mute switch


02 00 00 01 01 01 01 00 00 01 00 00
English
Voice Operation - On
Set 1 Audio
VW microphone
Antenna Diagnostics - off
Telephone baseplate diagnostic - off
mute switch

[JohnFol]

That was who I got mine from!
Initially worried about them being outside the UK, but I had a tracking number for the courier within 1 working day and delivery soon after.

[Shaun]

He is brilliant, and £3 post is crazy, it cost me more today to send something a lot lighter to Sheffield !!!