DVD Sat nav (how much??)

[The Don]

I'm about to take ownership of my new scirocco in the next couple of weeks, but this means losing my sat nav. I'm no female when it comes to directions, but I do quite a bit of travelling to other cities etc. So it does come in handy.


Just wondering if I decide to get a satnav head unit, and fit it after I purchase the car, how much is this likely to cost me? Will I be able to pick up the sat nav second hand easily enough? How much should I pay, and how much to fit it?

[trix]

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[mortygttdi]

Where abouts are you Don?

Darren

[The Don]

Glasgow area...

[mortygttdi]

I can send the latest LED C version to Glasgow for £600 all in it will include the latest v7 maps plus gps antenna.

Please pm me for further information

Cheers

Darren

[Scousus maximus]

I can send the latest LED C version to Glasgow for £600 all in it will include the latest v7 maps plus gps antenna.

Please pm me for further information

Cheers

Darren

Hi Darren,
Your expertise comes highly regarded on this and other forums so I'm after some info please.I'm interested in one of these and would want to install it with a Fiscon Basic Plus, have you any experience of this combo as regards fitting and getting it all working? I'm confident enough to do the fitting part but unsure about any VAGCOM coding that might be required afterwards. Perhaps you could PM me for a discussion.
Regards,
John

[sicinius]

Don't forget to add £150 for a TomTom XXL IQ.

If, of course, you want routing that will deliver the shortest route by being able to discriminate between B roads, warn you with up to date safety speed camera locations and cut journey times with accurate traffic info. The NavTeq based RNS does none of the above.

The big screen and map detail levels are very nice in the RNS but for satnav you can trust, take the TomTom too. The tray in front of the gear lever is just the right size. I went about for two or three weeks before fetching the Tom out of the kitchen drawer. Traffic info is particularly useless. The RNS is forever trying to get you round traffic jams that disappeared hours before, making your journey longer.

Not a fan. Pretty but overpriced and underwhelming.

[GeoffT]

Don't forget to add £150 for a TomTom XXL IQ.

If, of course, you want routing that will deliver the shortest route by being able to discriminate between B roads, warn you with up to date safety speed camera locations and cut journey times with accurate traffic info. The NavTeq based RNS does none of the above.

The big screen and map detail levels are very nice in the RNS but for satnav you can trust, take the TomTom too. The tray in front of the gear lever is just the right size. I went about for two or three weeks before fetching the Tom out of the kitchen drawer. Traffic info is particularly useless. The RNS is forever trying to get you round traffic jams that disappeared hours before, making your journey longer.

Not a fan. Pretty but overpriced and underwhelming.

The RNS is not perfect, but I don't think it is as bad as you are making out. On a recent journey through all the snow related traffic problems, the traffic info it provided was pretty much spot on. In any case the traffic info can only ever be as good as the TMC information providers so if that is wrong or out of date, it is not reasonable to blame the RNS. I would like it to be able to warn of speed camera locations, but I certainly don't feel that I can't trust it. You can always tell it to ignore traffic info if you really feel it causes more problems than it solves. In any case it is always the 64 million dollar question to know whether it is better to sit it out in a holdup or try to by-pass it. Like queuing in post office, whatever you do is likely to be wrong, and it would be a damn clever satnav that could predict how quickly a holdup is likely to last.

[mortygttdi]

I can send the latest LED C version to Glasgow for £600 all in it will include the latest v7 maps plus gps antenna.

Please pm me for further information

Cheers

Darren

Hi Darren,
Your expertise comes highly regarded on this and other forums so I'm after some info please.I'm interested in one of these and would want to install it with a Fiscon Basic Plus, have you any experience of this combo as regards fitting and getting it all working? I'm confident enough to do the fitting part but unsure about any VAGCOM coding that might be required afterwards. Perhaps you could PM me for a discussion.
Regards,
John

Hi John

I have a couple of costumers who use the Fiscon and RNS and find it a good combo, I have used the fiscon but not in my own car and find it to be a little bit slow, and the intergration is not full i.e the phone button doesn't work but these small things could have been sorted since I last worked on one with the fiscon unit?

I have got to say that on recent journeys with quite bad traffic the RNS as been excellent and in 1 case it actually diverted me around a 12 mile tailback on the M1...and now especially since it has full post code searching its more than up to the job of both media entertainment and navigation.

[nd10]

and now especially since it has full post code searching

Someone has updated theirs

[stuaz]

Yeah no complaints of the DVD Nav. I too have updated mine with full P Code search and it is good. Traffic I find spot on and useful, as well and its directions. Plus it looks good, nice clear screen etc.

I also have the Fiscon and it fully integrates, (Including the button!) and again is very useful.

Also, on a similar subject regarding the Traffic updates - wouldn't TomTom, Garmin etc all get there info from the same source? I.e: the traffic master people - someone know if that's true?

[pishpashposh]

Personally i would never ever bother with an in built sat nav as they are incredibly over priced - save yourself money and buy a better standalone unit like a tom tom. My wife currently has an insignia with it built in and its ok at what it does but i find its limited compared to a good standalone unit. The VW unit could be better but for the money...nah!

[sicinius]

Personally i would never ever bother with an in built sat nav as they are incredibly over priced - save yourself money and buy a better standalone unit like a tom tom. My wife currently has an insignia with it built in and its ok at what it does but i find its limited compared to a good standalone unit. The VW unit could be better but for the money...nah!

Yep. I've had it built-in and not built in and I only ordered it on the Roc when the lease company dropped their increment to almost nothing as the cars are easier to sell on with satnav when the lease is up. Worth remembering if you are negotiating.

In any case it is always the 64 million dollar question to know whether it is better to sit it out in a holdup or try to by-pass it. Like queuing in post office, whatever you do is likely to be wrong, and it would be a damn clever satnav that could predict how quickly a holdup is likely to last.

Yet this is exactly what TomTom does in London and on major routes because it sources its traffic information from live data from the likes of Trafficmaster. It's not free, you pay as you go, needs an enabled phone and the Edge or 3G data network but on a three year car lease you will never spend a fraction of the dedicated satnav costs. I lived in London for 20 years, always it seemed, on the opposite side to where I worked so I acquired an immense knowledge of backdoubles and short cuts but the TomTom will beat anybody point to point in London and the traffic info is creepily accurate. You will see the real-life end of queues exactly where they are shown on the screen. The RNS doesn't even know where the congestion zone is. TMC traffic information culls online sources and local radio stations, which are notorious for inaccurate information. If they have a big jam at 7:00 which disappears at 7:30, they'll still be reporting it at 12:00. All four of the jams which the RNS has tried to divert me around in the last month have been phantoms.

As far as routing discrimination goes, I live in a small valley between Hythe and Canterbury. From the ICQ database, the TomTom knows which roads are windy and slow and which roads will support 50-60mph - the RNS doesn't. If I followed the RNS route from here to Canterbury, it would take more than twice as long as following the TomTom, which uses the fastest route.

It is truly unbelievable that you can pay thousands for a built-in satnav and the providers will have the brass neck to charge you more than the price of a discrete unit for an upgrade disk that provides significantly less data and no regular upgrades. You can upgrade TomTom data daily.

Do they NEVER ask themselves why their users all become pirates, torrent downloaders and high-risk, warranty-breaking trapeze artists with their expensive kit?

It's not only VAG. They're all the same.

[skippy]

Hello, anyone have any more updated info on updated DVD maps at all please?

I did see a disk on eBay which was bidding at about £90, it said it had full postcode searches. I still have the original v4 disk on my car, I would consider updating it, but not paying silly money for it, think VW charge £200 or something

Cheers for any suggestions!