A race between hot hatches.
Can't believe Scirocco with lower spec engine beat the MKVI GTI.
Was it the chassis? Or less weight? Or the driver? See it for yourself.
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:32 pm
by wigit
Lighter, lower centre of gravity, wider track, better turn in, wider wheels and tyres and a mk6 driver who leaves the door wide open on corners
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:38 pm
by sat1983
Based on this I should keep my Cooper S!
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:07 am
by mordred1973
Odd they appear to have used a 2009 spec Roc.....unless the footage is a year old.....
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:15 am
by raffoul232
Well i own a stock scirocco 09 with only 200 ps and raced a gti 010 spec that has 210 ps and yet i still beat it. I really think that 10 horsepower doesnt make a difference in th elong run but only on acceleration you'll feel it. Also, it depends on the driver really (in my opinion)
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:05 pm
by mordred1973
I think you're right Raffoul.....5% in power makes no significant difference, the fact the Roc is lighter than GTI is likely to make more difference, but ultimately if the driver is a numpty then they can have a Golf R and you'll still beat them....
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:33 pm
by Grampa
sat1983 wrote:Based on this I should keep my Cooper S!
From the way it accelerates away at the start, I wonder if it's an S Works - I also have a Cooper, have driven a standard S and considered an S Works as an alternative to my Scirocco - the S is noticeably slower than a 2.0 Scirocco whereas an S Works is noticeably faster.
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:58 pm
by Candy Monster
That's an s not a works. It doesn't have the JCW body kit, brakes or wheels. There's nothing in it between the roc and the cooper s performance wise though the mini will be more fun to drive. The roc is a better car all round though and a bargain compared to a mini cooper s JCW but the JCW is faster. This was my car decision having moved from a cooper.
Re: Scirocco beating GTI MKVI
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:38 pm
by marriedblonde
Candy Monster wrote:That's an s not a works. It doesn't have the JCW body kit, brakes or wheels. There's nothing in it between the roc and the cooper s performance wise though the mini will be more fun to drive. The roc is a better car all round though and a bargain compared to a mini cooper s JCW but the JCW is faster. This was my car decision having moved from a cooper.
Hmmm that is something I would argue, I had an MCS and it was awful. Hateful thing, couldn;t wait to get shot of it.