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Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:42 pm
by Simon_T
Hi i opted for cruise control also for the factory fit but when i ordered other stuff out of the accessories i noticed it was cheaper so i mentioned this to the dealer and he agreed to pay the difference back...nice chap.. :vibes:

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:16 pm
by trix
don't think you mean to post that here do you simon?

GUIDE

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:04 pm
by bianco
OK, Finally did it! :D

AND for Your viewing pleasure - a Guide:

http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccop ... e=Fit_TPMS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:30 pm
by Chillout
NICE NICE NICE!
Thanks!
This helps a lot, now that finally someone tested it...
I'm going to use PIN 35 as well.

but... this part is a bit unclear to me, and it might help to put up a picture from it... because I didn't get it
You unplug the ESP wires and put them in a little black holder, that fits in the TPMS button. The wires from the TPMS button is then plugged into the ESP button.

Then You are left with a very long wire, which must be routed to the enginebay. There is a hole in the bulkhead/firewall with a rubber seal, just for this occasion. In a mainland car, it is about a foot from the left wing.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:13 pm
by BadBoy
What he means is the the flat tyre switch piggybacks onto ESP. So you unplug ESP, plug ESP into flat tyre and flat tyre into ESP.

This saves soldering

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:21 am
by Chillout
ah that's a nice solution... my hands are itching... I want to try!

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:15 am
by oferelijah
will it be the same install on post 45 white display?

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:24 pm
by bianco
Chillout wrote:but... this part is a bit unclear to me, and it might help to put up a picture from it... because I didn't get it
You unplug the ESP wires and put them in a little black holder, that fits in the TPMS button. The wires from the TPMS button is then plugged into the ESP button.
I added a little more explanation, but it is a lot easier to understand when You have the parts in hand, and can look at the back of the ESP button. Quite straight forward actually.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:29 pm
by bianco
oferelijah wrote:will it be the same install on post 45 white display?
Yes, unless VW change the ABS system... I would be very surprised if they did.

And Hey, I put the wire in PIN 27 first, without any ill effects.

Give it a shot, and let us know if it works.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:48 pm
by RW1
Its pin 35 on the ABS Controller connector on all models dispite ABS wire changes from MY2009 onwards.

C.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:08 am
by oferelijah
which one will fit in my 2010 white display?
Type of car?:
Golf 5 V | Golf 5 V Plus | Touran
year of construction?:
2006 | 2007 | 2008
?

+
they take 95 EUR to ship to israel..
its only a cable..

can i get it in another cheap way?

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:27 am
by Blue Meanie
Dont want to take this post away from the retro side of the topic...

But i have what i assume is a 11 car on 60plate... and though its back with the dealers right now i couldnt find the flat tyre indicator which i assumed is standard as i have the gt with 18" wheels... i thought it was next to the ESP and SPORT COMFORT buttons but theres nothing there?

Am i looking in the wrong location...or have i misunderstood?

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:36 am
by BadBoy
Blue Meanie wrote:Dont want to take this post away from the retro side of the topic...

But i have what i assume is a 11 car on 60plate... and though its back with the dealers right now i couldnt find the flat tyre indicator which i assumed is standard as i have the gt with 18" wheels... i thought it was next to the ESP and SPORT COMFORT buttons but theres nothing there?

Am i looking in the wrong location...or have i misunderstood?
its been moved to the glovebox.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:02 am
by Chillout
bianco wrote:
Chillout wrote:but... this part is a bit unclear to me, and it might help to put up a picture from it... because I didn't get it
You unplug the ESP wires and put them in a little black holder, that fits in the TPMS button. The wires from the TPMS button is then plugged into the ESP button.
I added a little more explanation, but it is a lot easier to understand when You have the parts in hand, and can look at the back of the ESP button. Quite straight forward actually.

Thanks. However... if I look underneath the ESP button, there's a a wide connector, exactly the same as the one that's red here:
Image

Do I have to unplug the wires from this connector? and in what order do I have to plug them into the black holder (blue in this picture)? and where do I need the other black holder that they supply?

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:28 pm
by bianco
Chillout wrote: Thanks. However...
OK, have updated the guide for the last time.

It took me five minutes to plug the wires in, but describing it makes me dizzy :rolleyes:


http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccop ... e=Fit_TPMS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:56 pm
by Chillout
:yes: :yes: :yes:

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:38 pm
by oferelijah
how can i know if i have a tyre sensor in my wheels?
its standard?

i have 1.4 tsi twin
all i need is the cable from kufatec and the button
a littel play in vagcom and its working?

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:55 pm
by bianco
oferelijah wrote:how can i know if i have a tyre sensor in my wheels?
The ABS system checks the rotation speed of the individual wheels.
If one wheel is a lot slower than the rest, then it is probably skidding, and the brake on that wheel is released a little.

The Tyre Pressure Monitoring System is a piece of software, that takes the same ABS systems information and says:
If one wheel is a little slower than the rest, then it is probably flat, and turns on the warning light.
It just needs to be reset, to know what "normal" is, when You change tyres.

Therefore, the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System does not need any additional hardware. Just the reset button.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:47 pm
by RW1
bianco wrote:
oferelijah wrote:how can i know if i have a tyre sensor in my wheels?
The ABS system checks the rotation speed of the individual wheels.
If one wheel is a lot slower than the rest, then it is probably skidding, and the brake on that wheel is released a little.

The Tyre Pressure Monitoring System is a piece of software, that takes the same ABS systems information and says:
If one wheel is a little slower than the rest, then it is probably flat, and turns on the warning light.
It just needs to be reset, to know what "normal" is, when You change tyres.

Therefore, the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System does not need any additional hardware. Just the reset button.
:eyepop: No skidding. Does not spin slower.

The systems initially takes its calibration from pressing the Tyre Pressure Indication switch on the assumption that the tyres have been first checked for correct pressure.

If the tyre that is going flat, it has an effective smaller diameter and therefore smaller effective rolling circumference of the tyre. This results in the wheel speeding up and the wheel's ABS sensor register's this.
The algorithm in the ABS calculates over a short period of time each wheels characteristic following calibration. So recognises a tyre deflating by the rotational increase in speed. At a specific tolerance, the system warns. The warning can also occur due to abnormal loading of the Scirocco on one side or anything that changes a tyre's effective diameter.

No braking or releasing of brakes is involved.

C.

Re: Flat Tyre indicator - Retrofit

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:32 pm
by oferelijah
thank you all