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Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:29 pm
by CTRnutter
albertz33 wrote:were not going to agree on this,

ask yourself this..is there a 5 door Scirocco???

no

so its not a hot hatch, not that any of this even matters a jot, since nothing changes, hence...

this thread is pointless....

Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No) but there is a 4 door, as there is no door on the rear, which why most coupes in one form or another are a 2 door saloon.

I rest my case ;) 8)

No its not a pointless thread, I love a bit of banter, its harmless fun and its interesting to see a difference in opinion I know I have my opinion, but its nice to see other peoples views

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:36 pm
by DavidH
In practical and mechanical terms it's rebodied hothatch ,with a lower curvier, bespoke body. So it's a sports coupe thingy. But it's a hatch, and it's hot so it's a hot hatch (even though traditionally a hot hatch is a performance version of an existing humdrum hatch). It's both, depending on which way you look at it. In terms ofthe feel/experience of the car it's kind of a half way house, in that it's familiar hot hatch stuff, but feels a little more special (to me).

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:38 pm
by albertz33
i dont think you get my drift, or maybe im not getting it across, :doh:

my arguement is you cant call a scirocco a hot hatch, because it has no origin as a hatchback, its a purpose built coupe, always was. As for BMW, it started life as a saloon, then turned into a coupe, so it had 4 doors, now 2 doors.

forgive me if im being curt, but im on 12 hour days / 7 days a week, and im working with a bunch of germans who seem hell bent on getting themselves killed "vot does zis mean?? high voltage??" :fall:

god alone knows how these people invented this car, they still think mullets are acceptable!

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:39 pm
by LCM
My my - Ive been away for a couple of days and you boys have started fighting already!!!

Obviously a difference of opinion but I am actaully with both of you - it doesn't matter what the f@ck you classify it as the point is that the Roc is sub zero cool, drives like a demon and gets as many looks as any supercar.

Bentley Continental Coupe pulled up along side me today and the driver gave me the thumbs up - I don't suppose you could call his a sportscar or a hot hatch either????? :lol:

Maybe we should have a third category on the poll - cooler than anything else in the above categories!!! :clap:

Roc On!!

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:00 pm
by CTRnutter
Ha ha sorry guys not meaning to be argumentative, its all cool here I am just having a bit of a debate and albertz33 is the same.... well at least I think we are both on same page.
:D

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:53 pm
by robrob
CTRnutter wrote:
Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No)
Wrong!, there is a 5 door 3 series....the touring! :)

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:10 pm
by albertz33
???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!

keep posting! this is the only thing keeping me sane!

but to reiterate

its a coupe

and to be sure, a good argument is the bedrock of democracy
Have at you CRT nutter! :fence:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:21 pm
by robrob
albertz33 wrote:???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!
is the bedrock of democracy
Sorry albertz33, the quote belongs to CTRnutter of course...

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:40 pm
by jonallen628
For me the frameless doors make it a coupe / sports car. Does anyone know of a "hatchback" with frameless doors?

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:18 pm
by LCM
consideration.gif
Its a hatch back and it ain't got door frames!!! :lol:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:45 pm
by CTRnutter
robrob wrote:
CTRnutter wrote:
Ask yourself this, is there a 5 door 3 series? (answer = No)
Wrong!, there is a 5 door 3 series....the touring! :)

LOL the touring is exactly that and its not a saloon its an estate!

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:46 pm
by CTRnutter
albertz33 wrote:???

i never said there wasn't a 5 door 3 series, someones been editing my replies!!

keep posting! this is the only thing keeping me sane!

but to reiterate

its a coupe

and to be sure, a good argument is the bedrock of democracy
Have at you CRT nutter! :fence:
ha ha :clap:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:27 pm
by jonallen628
LCM wrote:
consideration.gif
Its a hatch back and it ain't got door frames!!! :lol:
That was a little challenge to see if someone could come up with one :clap:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:57 pm
by wigit
mini cooper s is a hot hatch, also impractical and has frameless doors :yes:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:40 pm
by tartangti
I'd actually initially probably have said hot hatch but after reading the comment about the fact that a hot hatch needs to be a 'sporty version of a mainstream car' I guess that given the Scirocco was built from the ground up to be a sports coupe then that's what it is even though most of the parts in it come from other VW hatchbacks!

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:42 pm
by easybreeze
jonallen628 wrote:For me the frameless doors make it a coupe / sports car. Does anyone know of a "hatchback" with frameless doors?
BMW 1 series 3 door
Mini Cooper S
:)

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:17 pm
by silver130
Add another option Sports Hatch to the poll and see what happens then :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:18 pm
by albertz33
silver130 wrote:Add another option Sports Hatch to the poll and see what happens then :nod: :nod: :nod:
:gnash:

Re: Roc... hot hatch or sports car ?

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 pm
by drnick
Shooms, you've created a monster!!!! :clap: