Swirl Marks
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Swirl Marks
Hi All!
Just purchased a new (used) rocco, and the paintwork in parts is appalling, on the driver side door it looks like someone has taken a sponge filled with grit and rubbed it on the car What is the best way to, at least improve this!
The car is black! so shows everything
thanks
Just purchased a new (used) rocco, and the paintwork in parts is appalling, on the driver side door it looks like someone has taken a sponge filled with grit and rubbed it on the car What is the best way to, at least improve this!
The car is black! so shows everything
thanks
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Re: Swirl Marks
Take it to a local detailer and have a paint correction done.
The other option is to go over to detailingworld.com and learn about wet sanding and polishing, if you are so inclined.
The other option is to go over to detailingworld.com and learn about wet sanding and polishing, if you are so inclined.
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Re: Swirl Marks
Ok, thanks, I will try and find a decent local detailer! I wouldn't mind trying myself however I'm always concerned about making it worse! Thankyou!
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Re: Swirl Marks
If you give your rough location, maybe someone will be able to recommend one in your area.
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Re: Swirl Marks
Good shout, thanks! Based near Portsmouth in Hampshire!
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Re: Swirl Marks
Wet sanding probably is a bit to much for swirls but bob is right. DA polisher, patience and some polishing compound finished off wish a good wax & sealant should sort it out. I would do some research before hand, DA's can cause more damage if used incorrectly
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Re: Swirl Marks
Done some research, and contacted some local valeting companies, been quoted about £500-600 for a "two stage paint correction" - I have taken a look and think I will have a go myself, only concern is the paint thickness. I don't want to be overzealous and take too much off!
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks for the advice!
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Re: Swirl Marks
If you use a DA rather than a rotary polisher the likelihood of doing any damage will be dramatically reduced. It will take longer though.
The be fair they're reasonable prices for a two stage correction as it will take several days to do.
The be fair they're reasonable prices for a two stage correction as it will take several days to do.
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Re: Swirl Marks
I've got a DA which I am able to borrow! Just been researching products / compounds etc!Paddy_R wrote:If you use a DA rather than a rotary polisher the likelihood of doing any damage will be dramatically reduced. It will take longer though.
The be fair they're reasonable prices for a two stage correction as it will take several days to do.
Hmm does it? I was under the impression they would do it in a day! I'll have to question them a bit more!
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Re: Swirl Marks
Look at Maguires 105 & 205 compounds. They're great to work with and give excellent results.
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Re: Swirl Marks
You can do it in a day, I did mine in a day and applied Crystal Serum.STEVIE-B wrote:I've got a DA which I am able to borrow! Just been researching products / compounds etc!Paddy_R wrote:If you use a DA rather than a rotary polisher the likelihood of doing any damage will be dramatically reduced. It will take longer though.
The be fair they're reasonable prices for a two stage correction as it will take several days to do.
Hmm does it? I was under the impression they would do it in a day! I'll have to question them a bit more!
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However I had already polished my car before so it did not need a heavy correction and I only needed to do a refinement rather than an outright correction.
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 (ETA: per day!!) is around the right money for detailing.
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Re: Swirl Marks
As I know I won't get a chance to do this for about 3 weeks I had a little bash at getting the worst scratches out on Friday! Pretty happy with the results considering I did it by hand in about an hour! [emoji4][emoji106]I know it's not fantastic but think I have done well considering it was my first attempt! Before and after pictures below!
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Swirl Marks
Not for 25-30 hours work it isn't. You'd be lucky to get single stage work for £250.xjay1337 wrote:
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 is around the right money for detailing.
Three stage correction:
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Re: Swirl Marks
Mr OCD wrote:Not for 25-30 hours work it isn't. You'd be lucky to get single stage work for £250.xjay1337 wrote:
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 is around the right money for detailing.
Three stage correction:
Oops, I should have said "per day".
I used to do detailing so I should know.
Generally around £500 for a Scirocco sized vehicle, and £600-700 with a coating depending on what coating you go for lol
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Re: Swirl Marks
Couldnt complain if it was for 25-30 hours work. The place I went for a quote said it would be done in a day, drop it off at 8am and pick it up after work. Thought £500-600 was high for just one day, if it is generally a few days and takes this sort of time it makes more sense!Mr OCD wrote:Not for 25-30 hours work it isn't. You'd be lucky to get single stage work for £250.xjay1337 wrote:
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 is around the right money for detailing.
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Re: Swirl Marks
xjay1337 wrote:Mr OCD wrote:Not for 25-30 hours work it isn't. You'd be lucky to get single stage work for £250.xjay1337 wrote:
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 is around the right money for detailing.
Three stage correction:
Oops, I should have said "per day".
I used to do detailing so I should know.
Generally around £500 for a Scirocco sized vehicle, and £600-700 with a coating depending on what coating you go for lol
I've been detailing for over 10 years now long before all the cowboys jumped on the bandwagon, these days I just do it part-time to keep my arm in ...
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Re: Swirl Marks
That depends on variables. i.e. it might be done in one day and £500-£600 but you could have 2-3 people working on it, rather than one person working 2-3 days.STEVIE-B wrote:Couldnt complain if it was for 25-30 hours work. The place I went for a quote said it would be done in a day, drop it off at 8am and pick it up after work. Thought £500-600 was high for just one day, if it is generally a few days and takes this sort of time it makes more sense!Mr OCD wrote:Not for 25-30 hours work it isn't. You'd be lucky to get single stage work for £250.xjay1337 wrote:
You can easily spend 25-30 hours doing a 2 or 3 stage correction especially on some cars with harder paint types. Generally around £250 is around the right money for detailing.
Going rates are about £250 - £500 per day depending on who you use and where.
Ceramics start at about £100 and can go up to over £600-£700.
VW Scirocco GT 170 in shadow blue metallic with vienna leather, cruise control, parking radar, nav, bluetooth and dynaudio sound system. Remapped and shortshift fitted.
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Re: Swirl Marks
Makes sense, thanks Mr OCD. (y)
Re: Swirl Marks
STEVIE-B wrote:As I know I won't get a chance to do this for about 3 weeks I had a little bash at getting the worst scratches out on Friday! Pretty happy with the results considering I did it by hand in about an hour! [emoji4][emoji106]I know it's not fantastic but think I have done well considering it was my first attempt! Before and after pictures below!
What polish/compound did you use?
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Re: Swirl Marks
I'd have that sorted in a full day with a rotary, Flex 3401, Lake Country purple foamed wool pads, Scholl Navy pad, Scholl S3 Gold XXL and Scholl S40. Paint thickness measurements taken first. In my experience, a Scirocco has around 130 microns of paint which is decent to work with unlike some Japanese cars where the paint is less than 80 microns.