Thinking of buying a Rocco, which model?

[Mr OCD]

I'm seriously considering petrol next time round

Only because you are fed up cleaning all the soot off the arse end

Irony...

Last MOT emissions said...

'emissions to clean to test' ...

[Mr OCD]

Would a 58 plate have dab radio as standard or were they introduced later on?
Also how easy is it to retrofit the Bluetooth found in later models in a 58 plate?
And what's it gonna cost me to buy the unit?

58 plate will likely just have the RCD510 as standard. Bluetooth was a cost option and I don't think DAB was even available then.

The easiest way is to source an RNS315 with Bluetooth and DAB, purchase the microphone kit, GPS sensor and DAB aerial and retro fit with some VCDS coding. Should be able to do it all in for £200.

I'd still hold out for a 59 plate with the revised interior though.

[Lee170]

The blue 58 plate sold, I was umming and arring and lost out. Found an 09 in my price range but still got the older dash, it's red, what are people's thoughts on a red Rocco?
Look good still?
My current car needs 4 new tyres and the mot runs out Jan 17, Hence the rush to trade it in

[Phil]

Would the steering wheel be a deal breaker?
Is it that much better?

It was for me yep

[Roy_01]

Depends if you prefer the sound and smell of petrol or diesel

Having owned only one diesel car in my life (MK2 Golf GTTDi) i certainly don't want to own another

I also do a similar commute to your (12 miles, 5 days a week) and i used to be able to get around 250 miles out of £40 worth of diesel around 3 years ago, i can now get 230 miles out of the same amount of petrol in my 2.0 TSi Rocco (works out around 32 mpg), and on a recent trip from Sheffield to Northumberland, i averaged over 40mpg

I have an average of 54 real mpg with this car, thats a whole difference with 32/40.
But on that short drives i wouldn't bother too.

[Mr OCD]

Depends if you prefer the sound and smell of petrol or diesel

Having owned only one diesel car in my life (MK2 Golf GTTDi) i certainly don't want to own another

I also do a similar commute to your (12 miles, 5 days a week) and i used to be able to get around 250 miles out of £40 worth of diesel around 3 years ago, i can now get 230 miles out of the same amount of petrol in my 2.0 TSi Rocco (works out around 32 mpg), and on a recent trip from Sheffield to Northumberland, i averaged over 40mpg

I have an average of 54 real mpg with this car, thats a whole difference with 32/40.
But on that short drives i wouldn't bother too.

Yup, big difference. I did a 80 mile run to Yorkshire yesterday with cruise control set at 75mph ... averaged 58mpg.

Not bad for a 200bhp diesel

[Mr OCD]

The blue 58 plate sold, I was umming and arring and lost out. Found an 09 in my price range but still got the older dash, it's red, what are people's thoughts on a red Rocco?
Look good still?
My current car needs 4 new tyres and the mot runs out Jan 17, Hence the rush to trade it in

Salsa red is nice ... a friend has one.

Don't rush - wait for the right car to turn up and look UK wide. I travelled a 10 hour round trip for my car.

As for the steering wheel, etc. Look at both versions in person and decide for yourself. It was a deciding factor for me.

[House]

I have had a 2010 Scirocco 2.0 TSi for just over a year. My advice to anyone thinking of buying a car with this engine is to listen out for a slight rattle when starting the car.

There is a known fault with the chain tensioner on this engine and if fails will destroy the engine. It's just happened to me

I'm sure it's rare, but it's cost me an absolute fortune. Mine drove perfectly until it failed and the rattle was literally for a second or two and didn't happen very often so I thought nothing of it. Get the part changed to the newer revision if you can.

I love the car, but it has really dented my confidence in it. So I feel the need to warn anyone thinking of buying one.




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[Lee170]

The car I'm looking at online at Evans halshaw says it's had a new engine under warranty, it's the 2.0tsi gt, car is 2009
Were there any common faults around 2009 that resulted in this?
Could it be due to the mysterious rattle as mentioned in this thread?
Car is not close to me so can't go and see it but I'm gonna get it moved closer to me.

[House]

Find out when the engine was replaced if possible. Prob the same issue! I think they revised the part in 2012/2013 so if the engine was changed after that should be all good


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[Lee170]

Did most pre 2012 petrol models suffer with the rattle that trashes the engine?
Just starting to worry now about buying a petrol Rocco as I don't want to get a bill for thousands down the line
Is the revision retro fittable to a pre 2012/23 engine?
If so then what does it cost?
Still waiting to find out when the new engine was fitted on this red Rocco I'm thinking of buying

[Mr OCD]

Did most pre 2012 petrol models suffer with the rattle that trashes the engine?
Just starting to worry now about buying a petrol Rocco as I don't want to get a bill for thousands down the line
Is the revision retro fittable to a pre 2012/23 engine?
If so then what does it cost?
Still waiting to find out when the new engine was fitted on this red Rocco I'm thinking of buying

I don't think it is most at all TBH... you only hear about the bad ones.

But yes you can replace the chain tensioner, however it is an expensive job.

[Lee170]

Ok thanks,
Is it only on the petrol models?

[Cuprabob]

Ok thanks,
Is it only on the petrol models?

All petrol except the R, which along with the diesels is belt driven.

[rpsmith79]

But on the diesels you have to get the belt changed at certain intervals anyway, so if you just look at the timing chain tensioner the same as that, then it's no different to any other car/engine you might buy

[Mr OCD]

But on the diesels you have to get the belt changed at certain intervals anyway, so if you just look at the timing chain tensioner the same as that, then it's no different to any other car/engine you might buy

It's a major job getting access to chain and tensioners on a chain driven engine from memory.

Cambelts, however are simple and easy to replace relatively cheaply.

[rpsmith79]

But on the diesels you have to get the belt changed at certain intervals anyway, so if you just look at the timing chain tensioner the same as that, then it's no different to any other car/engine you might buy

It's a major job getting access to chain and tensioners on a chain driven engine from memory.

Cambelts, however are simple and easy to replace relatively cheaply.

I suspect the price will be about the same either way, from what i have read it's about a £35 tensioner and 3-4 hours labour, so at £70 an hour plus parts, thats around £315 (at 4 hours) for the tensioner, i have never had a cam belt replaced for less than £250 on my previous few cars, so not much of a difference really

[Harry_VW]

But on the diesels you have to get the belt changed at certain intervals anyway, so if you just look at the timing chain tensioner the same as that, then it's no different to any other car/engine you might buy

It's a major job getting access to chain and tensioners on a chain driven engine from memory.

Cambelts, however are simple and easy to replace relatively cheaply.

I suspect the price will be about the same either way, from what i have read it's about a £35 tensioner and 3-4 hours labour, so at £70 an hour plus parts, thats around £315 (at 4 hours) for the tensioner, i have never had a cam belt replaced for less than £250 on my previous few cars, so not much of a difference really

and once the tensioner *is* replaced, you should be sorted

[Lee170]

Looking at a 09 2.0tsi which they say has had a new engine in 2014, mileage is 61k, so is this the mileage from the original and new engine together so is correct?
I take it the engine had been replaced due to the tensioner issue that these have?
So it should have the new tensioner on and should be trouble free in that area anyway.
Is this still worth buying in your opinion?

[rpsmith79]

Looking at a 09 2.0tsi which they say has had a new engine in 2014, mileage is 61k, so is this the mileage from the original and new engine together so is correct?
I take it the engine had been replaced due to the tensioner issue that these have?
So it should have the new tensioner on and should be trouble free in that area anyway.
Is this still worth buying in your opinion?

I suspect it will have had a reconditioned engine fitted rather than a new engine, but i suppose it depends who did the work, it it was done by VW then there is a very good chance they will have fitted the newer spec parts, but if it was done by an independent garage it could have either in, unless it was stated on the reciept

If you are really that worried, i would just factor it into the price you are paying for the car and consider that you will get it done anyway for piece of mind, it may even work as a bargaining tool to get some money off if there is no record of the work being done

But as with all failures of this sort, its only the bad stories you read about on the internet, you don't hear from all the other folk who have never had any issues