Scirocco worth keeping?

[reddd]

Hello everyone. What do you guys think? Should I get rid of my Scirocco (160PS) or not?

It's 2011, it has 37000 miles on the clock. DSG was overhauled 2 weeks ago and now timing chain started to rattle few days ago and engine does not run smoothly when standing in lights. It had quick session with VW-mechanics today and the verdict is that timing chain and tightener needs to be replaced and the cam head needs to be machined, so I guess we are also talking about damaged valves and stuff.

My car will run out of warranty next fall and I am a bit worried if I should keep it. Without the warranty, paying 3000EUR for DSG overhaul and over 5000EUR for next cam head repair doesn't sound like something I would want.

[Waspy]

Well get it all done on warranty before it runs out... Then everything will be good as new. Or get at extended warranty, they aren't expensive for peace of mind.

[reddd]

Yes it will be fixed under warranty. But I might be facing another 7500EUR overhaul in the next 37k miles and that would be without warranty. As far as I know (and the forums?) they will not use any improved parts to fix my Scirocco, they just change the faulty stuff with the same parts?

[Kev]

Those kind of expenses are extremely rare from what I can see. If it's all done under warranty you'll be good to carry on.

[reddd]

Those kind of expenses are extremely rare from what I can see. If it's all done under warranty you'll be good to carry on.

There is a poll on Finnish VAG-forum about the DSG-faults, currently 31% users report that their DSG has failed (need of repair and spare parts). And out of those 78% say it was before 60k miles. The 2.0 TSI uses different type of DSG. The one used in 1.2-1.4 TSI is only rated to handle 250Nm (184 lb·ft) of force.

There are also a lot of 1.2-1.4 TSI timing chain fails on the forums. The current thread about the matter is 122 pages long. There is no poll yet about the matter, but it looks alarming.

[Kev]

If 31% of those DSG boxes were failing we'd all know about it, publicly.VW would have a PR disaster on their hands. They don't seem to.

What you may be finding is that 31% of the people who've complained on a forum have a problem. That doesn't account for the tens of thousands of others who don't have a problem at all.

[Dast1g]

Link to chain thread ? I'm about two weeks away from getting one :/ 1.4 tsi 122

[reddd]

It is in Finnish, but: http://www.vagarena.fi/index.php?topic=6771.0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Mark V]

Guys - please use the Reply or Quick Reply button rather than the Quote button (uness you want to refer back to a specific part of an earlier post)... thanks.

[reddd]

If 31% of those DSG boxes were failing we'd all know about it, publicly.VW would have a PR disaster on their hands.

There is a disaster brewing. The Finnish VAG-users are really baffled why VW has not said anything about it. You gotta remember that it's 31% out of those who have voted on the forums. Of course its not 31% of total VW users.
I personally know 5 DSG7-users (including me) and 4 of those has had their DSG fail before 60k miles. All with 1.4 TSI DSG7.

[Kev]

Do you not think the motoring press would be all over it if it was that bad?

[reddd]

Do you not think the motoring press would be all over it if it was that bad?

I am seriously surprised that no-one has heard of this before. It is really big problem here in North. Maybe climate has something to do with it?

http://www.autolatest.ro/auto-editorial ... ol-engine-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car ... miles.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ming+chain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.hstuning.com/product_info.ph ... ts_id=3619" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And few Finnish newspapers:
http://www.tuulilasi.fi/uutiset/volkswa ... juongelmat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/autot/art-1288651484063.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://autot.oikotie.fi/uutinen/volkswa ... issa/51110" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


And DSGs:
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/volks ... 71053.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... fuses.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/qa-a ... 2o3ig.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
etc..

[Kev]

Most of those articles are 2 years old. There's been a recall since then.

[reddd]

Most of those articles are 2 years old. There's been a recall since then.

Nods. My car is 2 years old was never recalled nor was there a recall for it. Were other countries cars recalled?
This might be the main concern about the Finnish 2009-2012 1.4 TSI DSG's. They weren't recalled. Which is really weird.

[moulin12]

Most of those articles are 2 years old. There's been a recall since then.

Nods. My car is 2 years old was never recalled nor was there a recall for it. Were other countries cars recalled?
This might be the main concern about the Finnish 2009-2012 1.4 TSI DSG's. They weren't recalled. Which is really weird.

Received a recall letter from VAG today, for the 7 speed DSG. This is the 'open clutch/freewheel' issue experienced in hot climates, and for which the remedy is replacement of the synthetic oil with mineral oil. The offer is of a free precautionary check, and oil changed to mineral oil if necessary. Strongly recommends that the recall offer is taken up.