1000 mile oil change

[BAIKAR]

has anyone done this even though its not required. I'm not bothered about the cost just wanting to have it running on new stuff after running in. No way will I be running the car upto 20000 mile before oil changes, 10 will do me

[sciroccorocket]

i asked about a 1000 mile oil change the salesman said it didnt need one, every other new car i have had has a change at 1000 miles, i think they have long life oil in them, i would still rather it had the 1000 mile change tho im fussy like that, i might book it in today i will feel better i think

[Andy-GTI]

The engines are already run in from new, they do not require the oil changing after 1000miles

The only reason you'd change it after a short interval if it was running on running in grade oil, the Scirocco does not have this.

You are wasting your money.

[sciroccorocket]

The engines are already run in from new, they do not require the oil changing after 1000miles

The only reason you'd change it after a short interval if it was running on running in grade oil, the Scirocco does not have this.

You are wasting your money.

thanks for the info andy i wont bother

[BAIKAR]

The engines are already run in from new, they do not require the oil changing after 1000miles

The only reason you'd change it after a short interval if it was running on running in grade oil, the Scirocco does not have this.

You are wasting your money.

engines may well be run in after production in the factory before the customer receives the car but they most certainly do not do the equivalent of 1000 miles on a bench or rollling road. Thats why its mentioned in the handbook.

Heres one for you, during the running in from new as you say do you really think that once they run the car for a bit they drain the oil and replace it with new stuff , I don't think so. So that said you are running your car from day 1 to 20000 miles on the same oil.

[Andy-GTI]

The engines are already run in from new, they do not require the oil changing after 1000miles

The only reason you'd change it after a short interval if it was running on running in grade oil, the Scirocco does not have this.

You are wasting your money.

engines may well be run in after production in the factory before the customer receives the car but they most certainly do not do the equivalent of 1000 miles on a bench or rollling road. Thats why its mentioned in the handbook.

Heres one for you, during the running in from new as you say do you really think that once they run the car for a bit they drain the oil and replace it with new stuff , I don't think so. So that said you are running your car from day 1 to 20000 miles on the same oil.

Stop talkin shite, if they thought there would be an issue they'd be telling you to get it changed early on in its life.

I'm pretty sure VW know a lot more about their engines and the servicing than you do. So if they say it doesn't need a 1000mile oil change it doesnt need it. They even developed enignes on variable servicing (long life) so they must be pretty confident in the quality of their manufacture and the the oils used.

Also note that if you drive the car hard enough the engine will sense the oil has degraded and may ask you to service a lot sooner than the 1yr/10k fixed interval . . . . .

[BAIKAR]

if vw say run it in for 1000miles it would make sense doing an oil change. no point running it on much passed that or you may not as well bother .yep i agree with you but the point i'm making is that i'd like to think the reason we are all on this forum is because we own a certain car that we want to either improve or maintain to alot higher standard than a normal driver and for that reason an oil change way before its due is not unreasonable if you don't mind the additional cost. Lots of others out there will be out with the waxoyl treating their car the first week they have it and why? yes the underbody treatment from vw is good and yes vw offer a very long anti corrison warranty but the fact is car enthusiasts will go to that bother because they want additional protection. me too in a different way! i've seen the other end with people who neglect the servicing in favour of performance parts. if you don't look after the basics how can you expect a car to last!

so if you believe they are run in from new does that mean you haven't bothered with 1000 as state in the hand book? if so bit of a contradiction to say vw know what they are talking about but to go against them and not !

[BAIKAR]

and Quote ANDY -GTI from 'running in'

'Most engines are run on the bench, the whole 'running in' of the 'engines' is a bit of a con otherwise you'd be takign them back to get the running in oil removed. . .

What you are really running is the rest of the transmission and brakes etc. .

You're all still assuming that the 'running in' refers to the engine.

You need to run in al the other rotating/moving componenets aswell, not just the engine.'

OK


and Quote ANDY-GTI from the same discussion


'Do the bulk of guys think the factory long life servicing is a good system?? Up to 20k / 2yrs on the same oil??

It's defo not for me, mine will be being set on time distance and will be getting around 6k mile oil changes.'


eh whats this an oil change after only 6k, its a con mate, your wasting your money, now stop talking SHITE!!!!!!!!!!

[Andy-GTI]

Mine will be on time distance because of the type of use it gets.

The car gets used for short commuting runs during the week, and does relatively low mileage at the weekends. The car also spends an awful lot fo time parked up being unused as i work offshore. Its currently been sat for 30days since its last use. . . . And when it does get used at weekends it gets used properly.

So, i only really do about 6k miles a year and the type of use i subject the car to does not fit the long life system, so it fits perfectly with the time/distance servicing of 10k or 1yr whichever is soonest.

Mine certainly did not get any oil change at 1k. . . . .

Since you asked

[bianco]

?!? mine says "Service now!"
(I held "0.0" while turning on the ignition to see it)

Have only done 1380 km...

[martdy]

?!? mine says "Service now!"
(I held "0.0" while turning on the ignition to see it)

Have only done 1380 km...

Yeh so does mine . The Dealer should have set it before delivery - amazing how the dealers don't always do what they should

[arlurt]

I was told that the Service indicator doesn't give a correct reading until you have done a certain number of miles. Think I've seen it in the handbook as well. Have you done enough miles for it to have a guess at when it'll be due?

[Andy500]

Guys, engines and gearboxes are now machined with much better internal tolerances and finishes, hence the days of being stuck behind a car with a big poster saying "Running In-Please Pass By" are long gone. This is why modern engines also run on much thinner oils.

Changing the engine oil too early on in a cars life can also have detrimental effects on the engine, particularly to the bedding in of the piston rings.

Im not saying that you shouldnt change the oil at regular intervals but follow VW guidelines, thats why they are there.

There isnt really much else than the engine that should require running in, i agree that the brakes are likely to need a couple of 100 miles to bed in and the tyres will need to have the top layer of shite worn off but thats it really

[Evil Derboy]

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[willu]

The life of the oil is determined by oil spec, build tolerances and the filter design. If it needs running in oil or there is risk of major leaks, or other problems (hand built typically) then it will be spec'd by the manufacturer (eg BMW on some M cars). Oil in you average jet engine will never be 'changed' and they do the mileage ok...

The Gearbox and axle oil in my Land-Rover lasts 18k (if it has not all leaked out), should I chnge it in the 'roco after 18k... no its because the Landy in not far off 1940's tech and the 'roco is a bit newer and the world has moved on.

Changing the oil and putting in the wrong grade will do more damage than no change, due to the temps & tolerances... Just ask anyone with a supercar that has put the wrong grade oil in and had the pressure light on an hot engine!

[Basho]

Mine said 15,000 Km service! I kinda think it's way too much... What do you think guys and please any forums talking about how to maitain the car better?