Scirocco Central

Hi guys

I've just installed a couple of goodies on my MY2011 Scirocco:
- 9W7 Bluetooth to replace "VW Premium" rCRAP unit that the car came with that didn't work with my iPhone; and
- MDI media in which I swapped for the armrest CD Player

Installing the 9W7 was easy-as, but i have a major problem. It connects to my phone OK but there is no sound. The built-in microphone in the car isn't working and I don't hear anything from the car speakers when calling out.

I thought perhaps the 9W7 was faulty so i put the old unit back in, but no joy - still no mike/speaker action.

A mate of mine came and did a scan with his vag-com and I've got a bunch of faults. Some are related to the MDI (although it works) and there are others for the microphone speakers etc. They're all double-dutch to me, so would really appreciate any advice about fixes. If all else fails Ill have to take it to VW, but would really like to sort it on my own if poss.

The "old" bluetooth unit i took out is 5N0 035 730 C

These are the details of the faults

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3
Data version: 20101206

Friday,18,March,2011,14:58:34:37299

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 4F 52 55 56
77

VIN: WVWBE2134BV000085

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C HW: 5N0 035 342 C
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7668690554
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 27732C6FEF6B

2 Faults Found:
01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 41
Time Indication: 0

03138 - Input AUX IN
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Time Indication: 0


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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 2720
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7K7119100
Coding: 060004020400009000
Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E7DD94BC091

2 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 151
Reset counter: 14
Mileage: 9072 km
Time Indication: 0

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 28
Reset counter: 14
Mileage: 9077 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.14.13
Time: 00:00:13


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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 2720
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7K7119100
Coding: 060004020400009000
Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2E7DD94BC091

2 Faults Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 151
Reset counter: 14
Mileage: 9072 km
Time Indication: 0

01523 - Microphone for Telephone (R38)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 28
Reset counter: 14
Mileage: 9077 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2009.14.13
Time: 00:00:13


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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C HW: 7P6 035 730 C
Component: TELEFON H05 0440
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007669081929
Coding: 0A00000000010100
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: 3245CD3BD4A9

4 Faults Found:
9455635 - Telephone Microphone
B1048 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 13
Mileage: 9176 km
Date: 2009.14.18
Time: 16:29:26

9457427 - Negative output audio channel for speech/telephone
B104F 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 9176 km
Date: 2009.14.18
Time: 16:29:28

9457171 - Positive output audio channel for speech/telephone
B104E 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 13
Mileage: 9176 km
Date: 2009.14.18
Time: 16:29:26

13636352 - Control Module Not Coded
U1013 00 [008] - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 55
Mileage: 9176 km
Date: 2009.14.18
Time: 16:29:26


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A member in another forum helped me with the "Control Module not Coded" fault and thats fixed, but still have all the mic/audio faults:

Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C HW: 7P6 035 730 C
Component: TELEFON H05 0440
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007669081929
Coding: 0200000000010101
Shop #: WSC 01234 444 00000
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: 3245CD3BD4A9

3 Faults Found:
9455635 - Telephone Microphone
B1048 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 9178 km
Date: 2009.14.19
Time: 18:36:43

9457427 - Negative output audio channel for speech/telephone
B104F 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 9178 km
Date: 2009.14.19
Time: 18:36:43

9457171 - Positive output audio channel for speech/telephone
B104E 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 9178 km
Date: 2009.14.19
Time: 18:36:43

Have you programmed it with VCDS ?

oops. got growled at for duplicate post. Sry trix. couldn't work out how to reply to your msg. can you pls move this to the Vag-com forum? i promise ill behave from now on...

182_blue wrote:Have you programmed it with VCDS ?

I didn't have access to a vag-com to stat with. I read a few posts off here from guys that had done it and for them it was just a straight swap. no coding needed. They must have had a different rSAP module to mine.

So, short answer is no.

If you or anyone else can help with what coding changes i should make id be really grateful

Do you have access VCDS now

yep

go into 77's long coding and turn the VW mic on, looking at your coding its off

Hey Blue, thks for your help with this mate. Well ive been down in the garage and gone through each of the options in the long code helper. none that I could see to turn the mic on. (sorry if im being thick). The options available with whats selected are:

Byte: Bit: Description:
0 02 Default language English
1 00 Voice Operation Active. Tried the other options - 1 off, and 2 partial but no change
2 00 Audio parameter settings 1 (very cryptic) there are three other options settings 2, 3 and 4. I tried them all but no change
3 00 Cooperative mute switch inactive. I ticked the check box to make it active. no change
4 00 Multimedia function (Bluetooth Audio) active
5 01 Antenna diagnostic inactive
6 01 Telephone baseplate diagnostic inactive
7 01 Operate unit cell-phone 3 button keypad, rest of world. The other options are North America and not installed. Tried both no change.

I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't a conflict with something else. Maybe the voice-commands for the RNS-510?

Was the original bluetooth factory fitted ?, and do you have 3 button switch in the roof ?

Yep to both - it came factory fitted and i have the 3 buttons in the roof.

When you took the stereo out did you connect it all up properly ?

Im pretty sure. I did the MDI install last weekend and everything was working fine including the old rSAP phone. The new 9W7 arrived on Thursday. after i put it in and found it wasn't working. But you're right, might be worth checking the connector block at the back of the radio. I'll do that in the morning and let you know.

u182506 wrote:Im pretty sure. I did the MDI install last weekend and everything was working fine including the old rSAP phone. The new 9W7 arrived on Thursday. after i put it in and found it wasn't working. But you're right, might be worth checking the connector block at the back of the radio. I'll do that in the morning and let you know.

You didnt have the ignition on whilst installing the Bluetooth did you ?, try disconnecting the bluetooth and reinstalling it.

Well Ive fixed the problem! I traced it back to user retardation.....

A quick check behind the radio found that the plug-n-play wiring harness that came with the MDI didn't have a pass-through for the phone controls. I was so hung up on it being a coding problem i didn't check that the bloody thing was plugged in! Swapped multi-pin connector 3 from the main quadblock to the new harness and its all good.

Thx for your help Blue. Would have spent hours playing round with the coding otherwise. If you're ever in Abu Dhabi I owe you a beer or 10.

u182506 wrote:Well Ive fixed the problem! I traced it back to user retardation.....

A quick check behind the radio found that the plug-n-play wiring harness that came with the MDI didn't have a pass-through for the phone controls. I was so hung up on it being a coding problem i didn't check that the bloody thing was plugged in! Swapped multi-pin connector 3 from the main quadblock to the new harness and its all good.

Thx for your help Blue. Would have spent hours playing round with the coding otherwise. If you're ever in Abu Dhabi I owe you a beer or 10.

Ahh , Yes the connector needs to come from the old quadblock and go into the one in the headunit, as you said it worked after you did the MDI I guessed it had been done

I thought the old bluetooth was working after i did the MDI - it connected to the phone so i thought it was all good - but i guess i didn't use it to make a call. im a dumb ar$e. thx again mate