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Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:48 am
by Kev
Just wondering what the opinions are of those who have now taken delivery of DSG's having never owned one before.
Is it as good as you thought it would be? Was it easy to pick up?
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:25 pm
by dchuraman
from what ive heards its great, ill let you know later this evening after i get mine!
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:28 pm
by CTRnutter
Kev wrote:Just wondering what the opinions are of those who have now taken delivery of DSG's having never owned one before.
Is it as good as you thought it would be? Was it easy to pick up?
Hi I put my thoughts in this thread !! but in short I love it and I'll never own a manual again
http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/forum/ ... ?f=2&t=108
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:51 pm
by sir_rocco
Hi chaps,
I came from a DSG golf and I would say that it took me best part of 10000 miles to be fully adapted to DSG whereby it became second nature a opposed to having to think what to do with the box. left in D, you can often go to make a steady overtake and the box drops 3 cogs and revs it nuts off for a second or two then settles down and shifts up gently. you learn to compensate by knocking it over into manual to hold the gear and use the torque to accelerate.
The electronics in the rocco are different though, the gear changes in D are more lazy and if you go for an overtake at 50 - 60 mph, the box will drop down to 4th, pulling around 4000 rpm and then pull all the way to the red line, in the golf it would of dropped down to 3rd to say 5500 the pull to the red line before switching up. The only way the box will drop down lower is by selecting S and then its banzai all the way
I think having noticed the above would explain why the car does not feel as fast as the golf because it is not accelerating at its maximum potential in D mode whereas the golf would. They are equal in terms of performance as a sprint from a roundabout down a dual carriageway to a marker post has the Rocco clocking the same speed as the golf did when the golf was standard (remapped was another story by quite some margin

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Another quirk I noticed is that when goign down long steep hills off the throttle and applying gentle braking to maintain speed, its as though the box senses you need some braking assistance and would drop a gear. This is not to be confused with dropping a gear because you have gone so low in the rev range that it would drop down anyway, we are talking 50mph in 6th it would drop and hold 5th until you touch the gas whereby it snicks straight back to 6th. This trait may go unnoticed on a standard car as the exhaust is pretty quiet but with the non res Milltek its got a nice background burble especially between 3-4000.
What I would say is this, if you are undecided as to which transmission to go for, ask for an extended test drive in a DSG car. If you cannot get one in the rocco then try a golf GTi, you are assessing the gearbox characteristics not the car here so the conclusions as to whether you like DSG will be born out. You already know you want a rocco....

Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:03 pm
by heavymetalmayhem
700 miles in and DSG is a god send when stuck in slow moving traffic. I also love the satisfying blip you get from the exhaust when using the paddles to change up under acceleration. Down side is I’m finding it very difficult to accelerate quickly from a standstill without spinning the wheels and traction control cutting in and causing the car to jerk. I do miss the control you get from having clutch that you can balance on acceleration and control the reves on a down change in gear. It’s early days yet so I expect it will soon become second nature.
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:40 pm
by heavymetalmayhem
sir_rocco wrote:left in D, you can often go to make a steady overtake and the box drops 3 cogs and revs it nuts off for a second or two then settles down and shifts up gently. you learn to compensate by knocking it over into manual to hold the gear and use the torque to accelerate.
This is the holy grail - thanks sir_rocco for pointing it out.

Until I read this I didn't realise moving the gear lever over would stop the gearbox changing up and down. This makes a huge difference giving more driver control. I have found using the gearbox this way far more satisfying when giving it beans on challenging roads and also like you said when accelerating in sixth on motorway. I find the car has plenty of power to accelerate in sixth gear without changing down and find its smooth acceleration and exhaust note far more satisfying then changing down to fifth at 80mph.
Has anybody noticed the gear change is not as smooth when the weather is cold - or am I imagining it?
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:10 pm
by rehmondo
heavymetalmayhem wrote:Has anybody noticed the gear change is not as smooth when the weather is cold - or am I imagining it?
It's very cold up here in Scotland 3.5C around 5:30 last night! I've not noticed anything.
I read your post on uk-mkivs about wanting to get yours by 17th Oct, I can see by your profile that you've got the car, just curious if you managed to get it for that family event, if you did what were the reactions like?
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:07 pm
by heavymetalmayhem
Yep I collected the car first thing on Friday 17th and later that day drove from Hertfordshire to Yorkshire (approx 200 miles). First time I stopped for petrol I had two people come over and tell me how great the car looked etc which was nice! Seen loads of people looking at the car and even overtaking and slowing down for a second look.
The family were well impressed especially my father in law. A few asked if they could come out for a drive and I obliged with pleasure. One brother in law did that thing were he tried to act like it was no big deal.

but he is well into cars so perhaps a little envious.
Re: Those of you new to DSG...
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:10 pm
by rehmondo
Cool, sounds like it was a good day, I was driving mine back from Crewe so ran it in doing 60-70mph all the way back, had a full tank so didn't fuel up but stopped at services, no one approached me but had loads of people looking and the same thing on the M6, lots of people overtaking then slowing down to take a look.
Nothing quite like that feeling

That was some day! Glad you got it just in time.