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Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:20 pm
by Deacon
There is a group test with a 2.0 scirocco, equivalent tt and the top spec peugeot rcz in the may issue of evo.

Roc wins!

Thought it was interesting that the same engine in the tt has 1extra bhp, 51lb ft torque extra and 18g km less emissions.

They also performance checked each car and put them round the bedford autodrome.

Roc did 0-60 in 6.1 compared to tt in 6.3 and rcz in 7.3. 1/4 mile was 14.8 for the roc, 14.9 for the tt and 15.5 for the rcz.

Roc was also quickest on lap of bedford autodrome with a 1m 30.4 against 1m 30.9 for the rcz and 1m 32 for the tt. They said none were exactly trackday specials but they'd take the roc over the others.

Deacon

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:14 pm
by kane1210
Nice win for the roc

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:52 pm
by kenti
Sweet :)

The test: http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/forum/downloa ... 0f6444bb19" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Open with winzip or winrar.

Cheers!

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:42 am
by Evil Derboy
Deacon wrote:Thought it was interesting that the same engine in the tt has 1extra bhp, 51lb ft torque extra and 18g km less emissions.
It's not the same engine at all. I've owned both. The TFSI is an older design and has many different characteristics from the 2.0 TSI.

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:13 am
by Chungster
Evil Derboy wrote:
Deacon wrote:Thought it was interesting that the same engine in the tt has 1extra bhp, 51lb ft torque extra and 18g km less emissions.
It's not the same engine at all. I've owned both. The TFSI is an older design and has many different characteristics from the 2.0 TSI.
:rolleyes:

Errr I think you'll find the current Mk2 (8J) TT (MY10 onwards) uses the EA888 2.0 Turbo engine (same as Rocco) albeit with different map to release inherent torque with that engine from the factory. The older engine you refer to (EA113) never came in 210ps spec btw.

Audi don't want to confuse their owners with TSI designation so kept on using TFSI badging.

And finally, we like to keep things accurate on Scirocco Central. We leave the misinformed stuff for other forums On the 'Net'. :yes:

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:30 am
by popjunkie
Has anyone actually tested the 0-60 time in their 2.0 GT and gotten anywhere close to 6.1 seconds before?

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:40 am
by Chungster
popjunkie wrote:Has anyone actually tested the 0-60 time in their 2.0 GT and gotten anywhere close to 6.1 seconds before?
Wigit has done a PB of 5.5secs I believe but then his car is not exactly stock anymore lol

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:45 am
by Evil Derboy
Chungster wrote:
Evil Derboy wrote:
Deacon wrote:Thought it was interesting that the same engine in the tt has 1extra bhp, 51lb ft torque extra and 18g km less emissions.
It's not the same engine at all. I've owned both. The TFSI is an older design and has many different characteristics from the 2.0 TSI.
:rolleyes:

Errr I think you'll find the current Mk2 (8J) TT (MY10 onwards) uses the EA888 2.0 Turbo engine (same as Rocco) albeit with different map to release inherent torque with that engine from the factory. The older engine you refer to (EA113) never came in 210ps spec btw.

Audi don't want to confuse their owners with TSI designation so kept on using TFSI badging.

And finally, we like to keep things accurate on Scirocco Central. We leave the misinformed stuff for other forums On the 'Net'. :yes:
Fair enough. Didn't realise they'd changed it. Nice veiled insult by the way. Very good. :rolleyes2:

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:53 am
by Actus Reus
Re: the 0-60 time, it's nigh on impossible to time anywhere but on a strip as most people don't have the right gear. That said my Boxster S put out 296hp and was quoted at 5.5ish to 60 and the 'Roc only feels very slightly slower (mine being a DSG). Whether mine is unusually 'fit' I don't know, but it's not been chipped and only has 3000 miles on it. Past 60 though the Boxster would absolutely slay the 'Roc. (0-100 11.5).

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:29 pm
by ChrisCSL
What about Evo's comments on the Scirocco's looks and that "white doesn't do it any favours"

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:11 pm
by Actus Reus
Yeah, I was perplexed by that - I don't think it's as derivative as they say, nor do I think that white hurts it - in fact I chose white myself (for the reason that I rather like it in white!). But that's personal taste - I don't really care what they think of the looks. It's quicker, handles better and more practical than both the other cars and cheaper and therefore a winner. I do agree that the interior is bland, especially next to the Audi, but I'll live with that...

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:40 pm
by ChrisCSL
Personal taste is right.

I've had many, many black cars in the past. I've also gone white for a change (as one was available). Being an R mine looks extra sharp in white with all the black detailing (wing mirrors, grill, tinted glass etc) especially with the pano roof. I'm not that fussed about a TT. For me I need the back seats and a usable boot too which ruled the TTS or TTRS out anyway.

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:12 am
by Actus Reus
Precisely - I needed a more practical car after my Boxster, and wanted to save some money hence R's were out (annoyingly things have changed and I could have one now, but too late to change as I'd lose a packet) - the 'Roc isn't a dedicated sports car, but it's a good drive, it looks good and can do practical stuff pretty well. As an all-round ownership proposition there are only a few cars on the market to match it - maybe a 3-series coupe perhaps? TT isn't nearly as practical if you ever take passengers and the RCZ...well...it's a Peugeot...

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:06 pm
by ChrisCSL
Actus Reus wrote: the RCZ...well...it's a Peugeot...
:hyper:

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:00 pm
by skippy
Hang on, May Evo? Surely not on sale yet?

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:02 pm
by Actus Reus
April's would be more accurate... (which is, indeed, what it is)

Re: Scirocco group test in may evo

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:09 pm
by skippy
Ah - thanks buddy, I know some of these mags are sometimes a month or so ahead!