shampoo with wax

[skyblues11]

having taken up detailing as a semi-hobby ( ok, i have too much time on my hand lol!), i have learnt that in principle, wax should be applied on top of paint sealant, not vice versa.

as i have a white Roc, so i use sealant instead of carnauba wax. in fact, i don;t use any wax at all.

but today i came to realised that the shampoo i am using to wash the car ( autoglym shampoo conditioner) does contain wax to help the water sheet off the surface.

does this mean i am doing wrong and the sealant won;t adhere to the panel?

and if i was wrong, does a PH neutral, wax free shampoo exists?

and furthermore, are there any cold water friendly shampoos? it seems impossible to produce a good amount of sud with water at tap standard temperature.

i think i am getting carried away!

[MarRocco]

Hi skyblues

I have a white Roc and use Jeffs Werkstat products: Auto Body Wash (suds at tap temperature); Prime Acrylic (pre-sealant prep); Acrylic Jett Trigger (sealant); Acrylic Glos (quick detail). The last three come in the Werkstat Acrylic Kit - it's not cheap but the products are easy to use and look great.

[skyblues11]

Hi MarRocco,

They are a good kit and left the surface shining like a lake.

but i still have half the container of the AG shampoo, so worried about the wax in it.

i am also experimenting with ther Nanolex product and put some on the roof and bonnet. to b honest its hard to judge the 2. Thw werkstatt is a tad shinier i guess, while the Nanolex is claimed to be more chemically superior.

I am just not pro. enough to tell the difference.

[autoperfection]

Hi Skyblues11

First of all, you're not getting any suds, because of the shampoo you're using... body work shampoo isn't the most sudsy shampoo by a long shot. If you're looking for a pH neutral, wax free shampoo that makes lots of bubbles, we've got two recommendations that would be excellent choices - Duragloss 901 Cherry Wash and Lusso Auto Bathe
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If you're happy with the shampoo you're using, then you're fine to continue using it, as it won't have any affect on how the sealant performs, however, if you're looking for something more bubbly, we'd suggest going with either of the above.

Secondly, you can happily apply a carnauba wax followed by a sealant, or a sealant followed by a carnauba wax and both of these combinations will work well. Essentially both products do the same job and neither one of them will cancel each other out. The difference between the two is basically that a carnauba wax is made from mostly natural ingredients and will give a deeper, wetter look, whereas a sealant is mostly man-made and will give longer lasting protection.

I hope that helps and hope it makes sense!

All the best

Taryn and Jim

[skyblues11]

thanks Taryn and Jim,

never realised there are so many issues with a simple car shampoo. Anyway, how does Poorboys - Super Slick performs against the duragloss?

[motimon]

could someone tell me the difference between sealant and wax?

e.g in autoglym, would the super resin polish be the wax and the gloss protecion be the sealant?

[trix]

Essentially both products do the same job and neither one of them will cancel each other out. The difference between the two is basically that a carnauba wax is made from mostly natural ingredients and will give a deeper, wetter look, whereas a sealant is mostly man-made and will give longer lasting protection.

[skyblues11]

hi motimon,

from my research, sealant is better for white and carnauba is better for dark colors. Remember i am no expert so this is just my result from the internet.

then you get those expensive nanotech sealnts that comes in a small bottle.

eitherway, i prefer the spray-on, wipe off types. I can apply more times but shorter time spent on each occasion.

[autoperfection]

thanks Taryn and Jim,

never realised there are so many issues with a simple car shampoo. Anyway, how does Poorboys - Super Slick performs against the duragloss?

Hi Skyblues,

Sorry for the delayed response - had issues with our laptops... long story, won't bore you, but we're back up and running with shiny new computers!

Asking us to compare the Cherry Wash and Super Slick and Suds is a bit of a tough call really as they're both great products and both have great selling points.

They both have good dilution ratios so are good value for money, although, if you work it out I think the Duragloss is slightly better value for money as it works out cheaper.

They both smell great, which is very important to me! Cherry Wash as you would imagine smells of cherrys! Super Slick and Suds smells of Pina Colada's (that's what we've figured anyway... we can't quite put our finger on what it is but boy does it smell good! )

They both produce lots of bubbles and have great cleaning power. Both leave an excellent finish but if we had to pick out one over the other, we would probably go for the Poorboys, simlpy because we've found it to be ever so slightly more lubricious than the Duragloss but as we've already said, there really isn't a lot in it!

Hope this helps

Taryn and Jim