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OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:31 pm
by wigit
when i did some logs with Revo when we uploaded the Stage 2 code to the car we noticed my rocco appeared to have a boost leak from the data, consensus was car was probably fitted with the rev G dv which is prone to splitting on mapped cars, my car has one 29k now (2k2 of those mapped)

booked car into dealers stated they should physically check the dv, needless to say they ignored said request as there were no fault codes showing and seemed ok, they ignored request to examine it and said there was nothing wrong with the car, needless to say we agreed to disagree :grumpy:

given the car is mapped i ordered the rev D piston type from a local dealer and got a mate to put it on the ramps to swap it over.

picture of OEM rev G which came off the car :eyepop:

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picture of OEM rev D (piston type) which was put on to replace it, i didn't go aftermarket as this performs as well, does not require maintenance (like certain mechanical ones do or they can seize) and doesn't sound chav

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needless to say its a different car, i won't name and shame said dealer but they are aware of the situation

i have a feeling newer cars have the rev D installed

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:08 pm
by kenny..c
Were abouts is the valve? looking at the picture looks like you would be able to see if you had the newer unit fitted without removing it!

ken

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:20 pm
by wigit
unfortunately you need to access it from below, its beneath the turbo on the drivers side at the rear of the engine, its a straightforward job when you car is 5 feet in the air :yes:

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:44 am
by trix
I hope you've taken it in to them & said so what are you going to do about it then

S

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:29 pm
by Evil Derboy
Wigit. Do you have a part number (and price) for the revision D valve? I'm looking to go down this route as well and my local parts dept aren't very good without part numbers.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:39 pm
by wigit
ED part number is 06H-145-710-D they are around £52 from memory with the VAT :yes:

only issue is its accessed from underneath but 3 botls and its done, US forums seemed to think the first TSI cars were running G and later cars had D, can't remember how old yours is so can't say whether you have it

plenty of these running on 350bhp stage 2+ golfs

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:45 pm
by Evil Derboy
wigit wrote:ED part number is 06H-145-710-D they are around £52 from memory with the VAT :yes:

only issue is its accessed from underneath but 3 botls and its done, US forums seemed to think the first TSI cars were running G and later cars had D, can't remember how old yours is so can't say whether you have it

plenty of these running on 350bhp stage 2+ golfs
My car's an 09 plate. Do you reckon it'll have the older one that was on yours?

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:39 pm
by wigit
in reality ED i haven't got a clue which ones do and don't, i wouldn't have bothered changing it until it failed anyway, i just knew a rev D was going back on it, got to remember some maps run more boost than others

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:48 pm
by Evil Derboy
wigit wrote:in reality ED i haven't got a clue which ones do and don't, i wouldn't have bothered changing it until it failed anyway, i just knew a rev D was going back on it, got to remember some maps run more boost than others
Yeah. I just have the feeling that the car's not as fast as it used to be but to be honest that may just be me taking the performance for granted and being used to it now. The Bluefin is a fairly conservative remap as oppossed to more hardcore stuff like REVO so I'm not even sure that it would knacker the DV valve anyway.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:57 pm
by wigit
its a weird on ED as the car was still performing quite well with it, in reality its worth getting some logging done as that shows if there is a leak and the most obvious point of failure is the DV, in reality £50 in the grand scheme of things isn't much and can give piece of mind

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:59 pm
by Evil Derboy
wigit wrote:its a weird on ED as the car was still performing quite well with it, in reality its worth getting some logging done as that shows if there is a leak and the most obvious point of failure is the DV, in reality £50 in the grand scheme of things isn't much and can give piece of mind
yeah your right. Think I'll order one up and get it fitted anyway. Like you say, for fifty quid you can't go wrong. Cheers for the info. :yes:

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:24 pm
by wigit
Evil Derboy wrote:
wigit wrote:its a weird on ED as the car was still performing quite well with it, in reality its worth getting some logging done as that shows if there is a leak and the most obvious point of failure is the DV, in reality £50 in the grand scheme of things isn't much and can give piece of mind
yeah your right. Think I'll order one up and get it fitted anyway. Like you say, for fifty quid you can't go wrong. Cheers for the info. :yes:
spotted on sig you've got vagcom have you done any logs with to check requested v actual boost?

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:10 am
by Evil Derboy
wigit wrote:
Evil Derboy wrote:
wigit wrote:its a weird on ED as the car was still performing quite well with it, in reality its worth getting some logging done as that shows if there is a leak and the most obvious point of failure is the DV, in reality £50 in the grand scheme of things isn't much and can give piece of mind
yeah your right. Think I'll order one up and get it fitted anyway. Like you say, for fifty quid you can't go wrong. Cheers for the info. :yes:
spotted on sig you've got vagcom have you done any logs with to check requested v actual boost?
No actually but it's a very good idea. I've not had it for long and don't know how to do this. Do you? or can you point me in the right direction to find out? May be something on the Ross-tech site but I haven't looked yet.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:29 am
by Evil Derboy
I've just found a guide explaining how to do it. Thanks for the idea. I never realised that it was possible. Will have a look at it tomorrow.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:22 pm
by johnjm
I changed my own one on my ex GTI. Took a while cos I hadnt read anything. Needless to say its a quick and easy job once you see pics.

Just checked ETKA now, If yours was made before 1 April 09 it wont have the new D revision, as the G revision was dropped end March 09 when replaced with D.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:49 pm
by Evil Derboy
johnjm wrote:I changed my own one on my ex GTI. Took a while cos I hadnt read anything. Needless to say its a quick and easy job once you see pics.

Just checked ETKA now, If yours was made before 1 April 09 it wont have the new D revision, as the G revision was dropped end March 09 when replaced with D.
Yep it was made before then. Can you change this on the Scirocco without having the car on a ramp?

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:13 am
by wigit
Seen it done with jack and axel stands

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:59 am
by johnjm
yup, I lifted the front to do mine on the GTI, on my back.

Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:39 pm
by Evil Derboy
Went a run earlier. Doesn't look like I have a boost leak after all. Well, based on my own interpretation. Maybe someone more experienced can verify or tell me different? Are these numbers anything to worry about?

Taken running a VAGCOM log on Channel 115 whilst doing an urban run followed by a blip up the motorway. (click for a full-sized readable version).
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Re: OEM Diverter Valve

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:26 pm
by Chungster
bloody hell a BF map running over 2 bar boost :eek: holy sheeeeeet!

i reckon u have a bit of drop off tho between 4500 - 5500. could be fuel pressure problem so boost couldn't be sustained in that area.

have seen this drop before on the old TFSI engine (is yours the old one or new one??)