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Brake change

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:49 am
by dimexi
Morning guys (long time),
I've been speaking about it for a while, but now I'm going to attempt to change my brakes (front and rear) in the next few weeks.
Been on Eurocar parts, and it seems there is more than one type of disc I can get. What is the correct disc thickness to buy? Also, as per the wind back tool for the rear piston, I hear you need one with the correct adapter! Anyone know the correct one to buy as well? Thanks.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:08 pm
by chelspeed
Take the wheels off and take a tape measure to them. Got to be more reliable than taking advice from the sort of idiot who posts in car forums on the interweb.

Doesn't euro car parts take the reg no and give you specific parts for your car model? Or does it still give you more than one option?

I do know it's not the biggest one, that's 345mm by 30mm and is specific to the R.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 3:17 pm
by Maisonian
The R is 345/310mm

I believe the GT is 288/255-6mm but just varify it with the good ol' tape measure for extra certainty.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 4:55 pm
by dimexi
chelspeed wrote:Take the wheels off and take a tape measure to them. Got to be more reliable than taking advice from the sort of idiot who posts in car forums on the interweb.

Doesn't euro car parts take the reg no and give you specific parts for your car model? Or does it still give you more than one option?

I do know it's not the biggest one, that's 345mm by 30mm and is specific to the R.
I assumed a few ppl had changed their brakes on here, so thought I'd see.
Never really got bad advice on here, so I'd have thought we didnt have many 'idiots' on here, except if it's all changed.
Anyway, I searched the forum and saw that cuprabob had given the sizes before (312mm front and 255mm rear diameter on the 2.0tsi)

And europarts gave 3 different sizes for my reg :rolleyes: wonder why.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:48 pm
by Cuprabob
Double check as I'm not always right...

Also worth checking with TPS as they often have deals on OEM brake parts and often they are not bad value.

ECP website is just a lottery and cannot be relied upon.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:20 pm
by C00kie
I did A LOT of checking before ordering my discs and pads, which included checking my car's PR code and calling up the parts desk at the local VW dealer. 312 x 25mm front and 253 x 10mm rear for my 2.0 TSI, but as above don't always rely on car part websites.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:40 pm
by dimexi
Thanks bob and cookie! I'll check with TPS actually, good idea. I've got the discs already, but can always return if they don't fit. Though, c00kie's numbers does seem to confirm that they're 312mm up front.

Thank you!

Re: Brake change

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:21 pm
by Paradox1
check out MTec disks on ebay. they usually come with Mintex pads. they do the job well for a road car

Re: Brake change

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:22 am
by dimexi
I'll check them out @paradox, thanks.

While we are here, I have a few questions:
Jacking - I'm going to be using a trolley jack. Do you guys use jack pads when using those?

Pads - couldn't get through to TPS. On ECP website, there're two pad types for fronts, one for the 288mm disc and another for 345mm.... none for 312mm :rolleyes: is one of those compatible with the 312mm discs?

Re: Brake change

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:32 pm
by xjay1337
chelspeed wrote:Take the wheels off and take a tape measure to them. Got to be more reliable than taking advice from the sort of idiot who posts in car forums on the interweb.

Doesn't euro car parts take the reg no and give you specific parts for your car model? Or does it still give you more than one option?

I do know it's not the biggest one, that's 345mm by 30mm and is specific to the R.
Oh the Irony


2.0 TSI is 312mm front, 255mm rear
1.4 TSI are 288mm front, 255mm rear
R is 345mm front 310mm rear.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:09 am
by dimexi
xjay1337 wrote:
chelspeed wrote:Take the wheels off and take a tape measure to them. Got to be more reliable than taking advice from the sort of idiot who posts in car forums on the interweb.

Doesn't euro car parts take the reg no and give you specific parts for your car model? Or does it still give you more than one option?

I do know it's not the biggest one, that's 345mm by 30mm and is specific to the R.
Oh the Irony


2.0 TSI is 312mm front, 255mm rear
1.4 TSI are 288mm front, 255mm rear
R is 345mm front 310mm rear.
Thanks for confirming jay! Top man

Re: Brake change

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:24 pm
by Paradox1
dimexi wrote:I'll check them out @paradox, thanks.

While we are here, I have a few questions:
Jacking - I'm going to be using a trolley jack. Do you guys use jack pads when using those?

Pads - couldn't get through to TPS. On ECP website, there're two pad types for fronts, one for the 288mm disc and another for 345mm.... none for 312mm :rolleyes: is one of those compatible with the 312mm discs?
Better to use jackpads as the jack eats at the (jack beams)

I jack the car up then put the axle stands under the Anti lift kit mount. dont work on the jack alone obviously. if he need any more help give us a shout

Re: Brake change

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:01 pm
by dimexi
Yeah, I'm planing to install permanent jack pads via the info in rocopedia. Thanks so much for the help paradox.

What do you reckon about my post regarding brake pads? On ECP, there doesn't seem to be a pad that 'fits' a 312mm disc... the two options are for 288mm and 345mm discs. Would the one for a 288mm disc suffice for me?

Re: Brake change

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:05 pm
by Cuprabob
dimexi wrote:Yeah, I'm planing to install permanent jack pads via the info in rocopedia. Thanks so much for the help paradox.

What do you reckon about my post regarding brake pads? On ECP, there doesn't seem to be a pad that 'fits' a 312mm disc... the two options are for 288mm and 345mm discs. Would the one for a 288mm disc suffice for me?
No, you need the right pads for a 312mm disc.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:07 am
by dimexi
Ok, thanks. I'll be returning the ones I got to ECP

Re: Brake change

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:11 am
by Paradox1
I thought that the TDI rocco's had the 288mm front disks???

If so then these will do. ive used these before and they have been quite good for road and the 1 trackday
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-SCIROCCO-R ... xyA4ZRRJcR" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dont forget to buy som copper grease too

Re: Brake change

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:21 am
by Cuprabob
Paradox1 wrote:I thought that the TDI rocco's had the 288mm front disks???

If so then these will do. ive used these before and they have been quite good for road and the 1 trackday
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-SCIROCCO-R ... xyA4ZRRJcR" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dont forget to buy som copper grease too
I don't know about the 140PS, but the 170PS has 312mm front discs.

Irrelevant anyway as he has a 2.0 TSI

Re: Brake change

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 11:27 am
by Paradox1
reading your spec instead of dimexi lol

Re: Brake change

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:33 pm
by dimexi
Took it back to ECP, they checked the system and said the pads were compatible with 288 and 312mm discs....... I'll be really pissed off if I take my car apart and find otherwise.

Re: Brake change

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:43 pm
by Cuprabob
dimexi wrote:Took it back to ECP, they checked the system and said the pads were compatible with 288 and 312mm discs....... I'll be really pissed off if I take my car apart and find otherwise.
I would have thought the surface area of the pad would have been less for the 288mm disc compared to the 312mm disc. You'll soon find out when you take them apart. Compatible is a very vague term.