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**VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:36 pm
by Marv_rocco
I'm dreading having to take the roc in for this "update" have had many letters saying it needs to as my engine is affected ...... surely performance will be affected in some way ? ..... the reduction in emissions must take it from somewhere ? Has anyone had it carried out yet and noticed a difference ?


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Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:03 pm
by Cuprabob
When my car was in, I just signed a disclaimer and told them not to do the update.

If you do get it done though, you do get a free gift of a pen, keyring and flask mug. I bet the US customers are really jealous as they only got a few thousand dollars...

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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:06 pm
by Paddy_R
I'm the same as Cuprabob, told them I didn't want it done. All I had to do was sign a piece of paper.

They can't make you bring it in but just be careful. I only booked my Scirocco in for a service and it was automatically also booked in for the update. If I hadn't have read the work order sheet carefully they would have done it without me ever asking for it.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:39 am
by Marv_rocco
Cuprabob wrote:When my car was in, I just signed a disclaimer and told them not to do the update.

If you do get it done though, you do get a free gift of a pen, keyring and flask mug. I bet the US customers are really jealous as they only got a few thousand dollars...


What happens when it comes to future MOT tests ? ..... that's ideal then - nothing should be affected !


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Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:44 am
by Roy_01
I don't think they measure NOx at the MOT, maybe in the future they will.

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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:23 am
by Cuprabob
As said, no impact on MOT emissions test.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:35 pm
by Astonbarlow
Had anyone had it done yet? What are your thoughts? My car is in for a service on 28th and from what I've read, it's not been a great experience afterwards. I'll probably be asking for a disclaimer. I would be more satisfied if they provided some form or warranty, it says a lot that they don't trust their remap enough to give it a warranty...

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:03 am
by Terryrussell1952
I've read some shocking stories about 140 Passats and Tiguans being done, vibrations at 1500, poor fuel consumption etc etc. Our 177 Passat is in for a service on Tuesday and won't be done. The problem is that once done it apparently cannot be reversed so we'll be leaving as is. Have a look here.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/volksw ... sions-fix/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:41 pm
by polo classic
Just did my 163 PS A6 2.0 TDI, can't feel the difference


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Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:43 pm
by SPEEDDRV
140 2.0 TDI Rocco here. I did VW update. No difference on power output that I can notice. The only thing I now notice is the amount of DPF regens. It used to do 2 per month. Now it does 1 or 2 per week, it depends. More consumption average when doing regen of course. Because of that it wastes more diesel.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:33 am
by Technane
heard mixed reports, but extra regens seems silly, I do a lot of motorway miles 300 a week at least. so I certainly don't need any extra regen activity, are they still giving out keyrings and crap for this?

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:02 am
by Roy_01
I think they are running the engines richer what reduces the NOx output but creates more soot.
What explanes the extra regenerations and fuel use.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:33 am
by Technane
Makes sense, yeah Rich engine run, suggests we could tune it back down but then we would just NOX it back up lol! Who needs a Rich running engine, are we back to being able to flood them? haven't smelt a rich runner in fecking ages.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:42 am
by micky082
I got my letter through from VW last week and was going to book my car in at my local dealership, however I've since been advised of the power issue it's created on Tiguans and it's got my thinking if I should go through with the update?

I know it's not mandatory and to be honest, I've had no problems at all during the time I've had the car (2 years), so I'm thinking is it really worth taking the risk? I'd be absolutely gutted if I had the update done and started to encounter problems. Obviously I'd be taking it back to VW, however they probs tell me nothing is wrong or to jog on!

As for the compo thing, don't even get me started on that. My old man has a Audi Q3 and when they did the software update on that, they gave him a proper authorised Audi car cleaning kit worth about £60.00, which I thought was decent. Offering a pen, keyring or some other form of absolute tat is nothing short of an insult! I'd probably tell them to stick it!!

I'm curious to know the following if possible please?

- if anyone has had the update done and encountered any problems?
- As car tax is calculated on emissions output, would this affect what I pay each year?
- By not having the update done, could this cause problems if I try to sell or part-ex it?

My gut instinct is telling me to sack the update off, however just trying to gather some info before I defo make that decision.

Cheers! :)

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:00 am
by Willyjay212
My car had it done before I got it there 3 weeks ago but tbh I don't see any problems with it
It still goes fast and there's no extra fuel I'm using
Soo it's all okay atm! Fingers crossed!

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:41 am
by Cuprabob
micky082 wrote: I'm curious to know the following if possible please?

- if anyone has had the update done and encountered any problems?
- As car tax is calculated on emissions output, would this affect what I pay each year?
- By not having the update done, could this cause problems if I try to sell or part-ex it?
VED is based on CO2 emissions and the emissions in question with the update is Nox emissions. No effect on VED paid or the MOT test.

Whether the update has been done will have no impact on sale or trade-in. If it did, you could just get it done just before you sell.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:06 am
by youngyy
Has anyone with a 170 had it done yet? How's it run after the update? Mines a 60reg 170 DSG and received the letter today

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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:30 am
by Paddy_R
youngyy wrote:Has anyone with a 170 had it done yet? How's it run after the update? Mines a 60reg 170 DSG and received the letter today
My reply would be this: how is your car running now? Is it going well? If so why mess with it. Do you really need a free pen and mug that badly?

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:48 pm
by salsajoe
Paddy_R wrote:
youngyy wrote:Has anyone with a 170 had it done yet? How's it run after the update? Mines a 60reg 170 DSG and received the letter today
My reply would be this: how is your car running now? Is it going well? If so why mess with it. Do you really need a free pen and mug that badly?
Or maybe £3000!! if you join the class action.

Re: **VW emissions affected roccos **

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:38 pm
by chelspeed
I think maybe is the important word there!!!

Plenty of people on here saying the mod makes no difference, so not much incentive for VW to pay compensaton.

The software fiddle was to pass a specific emission test in US. No mention of a similar fiddle to pass UK tests so presumably with or without the US fiddle it passed UK tests. So what's the claim? That VW sold you a car which wouldn't pass a US test it doesn't need to pass? Typical ambulance chasing lawyer chancers and money grabbing consumers brought up in a compensation culture. Get real.