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Car change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:59 pm
by Tallguy
I am thinking about changing my 3 year old 2.0 GT. I have had two Scirocco's and love them but am wondering if I should have another car simply because Scirocco's are maybe getting a bit old in the tooth; out since 2008 and on an old Golf floorpan. The 2014 facelift is not worth changing for in my opinion.
I guess a Golf GTI looks an obvious option (the Golf R is more than I need performance-wise and also too expensive with a few options). What do others in a similar position think?
Re: Car change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:48 pm
by moulin12
This is something I wrestled with about six months ago when looking to upgrade from my 160 (mainly driven by dsg clutch and engine concerns) and which, coincidently, I've found myself mulling over again this evening on the back of further concerns over the reliability of the 160s.
Your decision may be influenced by how long you intend to keep your next car. If I were looking to buy new or nearly new, it would probably be with the intention of keeping the car a good few years; in which case I would have concerns that with the Scirocco I was buying into old technology and with limited options. And whilst I'm still in love with the front end, in particular - and walking to the car still gives me a fuzzy feeling - from some angles (especially side view) the Scirocco is showing its age. I find the MK7s, on the other hand, very clean and fresh - indeed I think it's one of the best Golf facelifts there's been, taking into account the decades into which each were introduced.
If the Golf and Scirocco R's were similarly priced, then for me it would be the Golf, albeit with a heavy heart. I would have to persuade myself that I was buying a more grown-up car, and take my enjoyment more from the newer technology and features than the looks. However, even when more or less matched in terms of options, the Golf R is a good 5-6 grand more. Even on drive the deal, choosing an average set of options comes up with a price of 36K, compared to nearer 30k for the Scirocco. On that basis, the alternative choice for me (unless I simply looked for a cheap 2.0 roc) would be indeed the GTI.
It really would take some head over heart convincing though!
Re: Car change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:53 pm
by Cuprabob
Some good deals to be had on Golf MK7 GTIs and GTDs at the moment plus Xenons and Keyless entry are now standard. I believe a minor facelift on the MK7 Golf is going to announced at the end of the year, so that's probably the reason behind the deals.
Re: Car change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:15 pm
by old n grey
Hi , I changed my roc I have had for two years with a brand new R-line 3 weeks ago and to be honest I'm not 100% sure I've done the right thing. Don't get me wrong its a lovely car but I don't feel like I'm driving a brand new car , I thought it would be something special and its just not! I think I should have gone for something completely different perhaps a Golf GTD or a Audi TT. I guess changing a like for like car what ever car it is a bit of an anti-climax.
Re: Car change
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:24 pm
by Cuprabob
I've only ever bought the same model of car again once and I felt exactly the same.
Re: Car change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:02 am
by RoccoTom
Another factor to consider is whether your circumstances are likely to change anytime soon, and whether that might affect your need for 3-door or 5-door, short journeys or long journeys etc.
I have had my 2.0 TSI nearly three years and will need to decide whether I pay the remaining balance to buy it outright or hand it back to VW and put the deposit on something else. We have a baby now and the Scirocco has proven totally impractical for this, but our Ford Focus is ideal. For months I've been unable to decide between:
1. Keep the Scirocco, as I still love it.
2. Upgrade to the new Scirocco R (although they just don't look as good anymore).
3. Change to a new CC (which I love the look and practicality of, but they are now only offered with diesel engines).
Anyone got any ideas?
Sorry to hijack... Are you fixed on the next car being a VW, 'Tallguy', or would you consider a different make?
Tom
Re: Car change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:55 am
by MartyRocco
I went from a Scirocco GT TDi to a Golf GTi a year ago. Did I make a good choice? I'm not sure, I now only do 6k miles a year (which is why I went for the GTi) but I still feel like I'm putting a lot of fuel in it. But this is something you might be used to anyway.
I certainly find the Golf more practical (yawn) in terms of getting out of the car in tight car parks. I'm 6'3" and at the time I owned the 'Roc I was over 17 stone, even with the Sciroccos windows open it could be a bit of a struggle.
The Golf is certainly easier to ferry the in-laws about in and I do think it looks more up to date than my 61 plate 'Roc did. But I still think there is something missing from the Golf, I think it doesn't really have an identity when you compare it to Seat, Audi and dare I say it Kia? It doesn't stand out. This why I think I went for the GTi, I hoped it would give it the edge. I still get admiring glances from other drivers, but it's generally those yoofs in Corsa's and older Golfs with half of Halfords glued to the bodywork.
I think it's safe to say that as I've already enquired at VW about chopping it in after a year (not going to happen!) I probably made a rash choice...
Re: Car change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:36 am
by Tallguy
Thanks for the interesting comments. It is obviously an issue for a good number of Scirocco driver/owners. At the moment my thoughts are:
- my car is low mileage/excellent condition and paid for so I could just hang on without any monthly repayments
- I will not be getting another Scirocco (when I think about it, it is the interior rather than the exterior that is starting to look dated)
- I had heard the Golf GTI is due a mild update (I guess to keep it going until the Golf Mk 8 in a few years)
Re: Car change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:44 pm
by Shaun1982
MartyRocco wrote:I went from a Scirocco GT TDi to a Golf GTi a year ago. Did I make a good choice? I'm not sure, I now only do 6k miles a year (which is why I went for the GTi) but I still feel like I'm putting a lot of fuel in it. But this is something you might be used to anyway.
I certainly find the Golf more practical (yawn) in terms of getting out of the car in tight car parks. I'm 6'3" and at the time I owned the 'Roc I was over 17 stone, even with the Sciroccos windows open it could be a bit of a struggle.
The Golf is certainly easier to ferry the in-laws about in and I do think it looks more up to date than my 61 plate 'Roc did. But I still think there is something missing from the Golf, I think it doesn't really have an identity when you compare it to Seat, Audi and dare I say it Kia? It doesn't stand out. This why I think I went for the GTi, I hoped it would give it the edge. I still get admiring glances from other drivers, but it's generally those yoofs in Corsa's and older Golfs with half of Halfords glued to the bodywork.
I think it's safe to say that as I've already enquired at VW about chopping it in after a year (not going to happen!) I probably made a rash choice...
I can agree with that, for me the 'special' golf models like the gti & such don't seem to stand out as obviously as they have in previous years to other models. For instance a mk5 r32 had the silver grille & the red stripe on the gti that standad models didn't have.
I've also got a thing about cars looking too thin lol. The golfs fall into that category,along with Toyota gt86's. Lacking some bulk to them in my eyes.
Long live the lardy scirocco [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
Re: Car change
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:00 pm
by moulin12
How about the Focus RS, in a year's time?
Re: Car change
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:23 pm
by Tallguy
As an update, my wife thinks Golfs (even GTI's) are too ordinary looking. Therefore I am looking for a near new (latest model) Audi TT.
Re: Car change
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:36 pm
by selleym
Just hope they hurry up and do a mk4 Rocco!
Re: Car change
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:59 pm
by skippy
selleym wrote:Just hope they hurry up and do a mk4 Rocco!
Think we will have to wait at least another 2 years!
Re: Car change
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:55 am
by Tallguy
To finish the story, I Have ordered a new TT for delivery next month. With some hard negotiation, new was not much more expensive than near new. I shall be sorry to say goodbye to my Scirocco which has served me well and given me a good p/e price. At least I know the car I am buying will not have a model change for some years.
Re: Car change
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:26 pm
by old n grey
Tallguy wrote:To finish the story, I Have ordered a new TT for delivery next month. With some hard negotiation, new was not much more expensive than near new. I shall be sorry to say goodbye to my Scirocco which has served me well and given me a good p/e price. At least I know the car I am buying will not have a model change for some years.
Nice cars, in hindsight probably what I should have gone for! glad you got a good deal.