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Thanks for clarifying these items, one more, you say you used the VAG COM but 182_blue says on a posting at the top of page 3 used VCDS is this possible ether way?

What's the difference? Vag Com Diagnostic Software = VCDS

As I understand it (correct me if I am wrong) the VCDs is a CD placed in to the dash RDC 510 unit with the dater necessary to program its functions, the VAG COM is used to program the on board computer that runs the various functions like lights and the like? or have i got it wrong

I'm not aware of the existance of such a cd.
Check out here for more info about vcds http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/index.html

Nothing other than VAG is Volkswagen AG and they instisted in 2008 that Uwe Ross change the name of his product. Hence VCDS.

Two spots in the diagnostics where the Camera needs to be recognised.

Above RCD 510 - no VCDS runs on the laptop or Desk PC - ( with a very long lead!) after you have either downloaded it from Ross-Tech or a licenced franchise. Supplying on CD is most likely a pirate crack and fixed on a particular issue version - eg v908 currently seen knocking about. CD from Ross Tech tends to be for multi loading of PCs in Workshops.

I've been involved with VAG-COM since the prototypes & v0.50 in May 2000. The only time you really need to change your lead with Ross Tech is when VW-Audi Group add another comms wire connection to the diagnostic connection. Thats happened once since year 2000. Also, as the VCDS software updates it also update the firmware in the doggled plug head of the lead you buy. I'm on my third connection lead, only cos I have a prototype. Both the production leads are still in use. For the Scirocco, using v10.6.0. **. Plus a HEX + CAN lead, connection is your choice - serial or USB.

(** still not perfect but adequate for most things, still having to write my own label files to support certain controllers that are fitted. Not to hard, just dump the controller map and a bit of editing.)

C.

You are proberly right and its 182_blue that has it wrong or is confused, thanks for your help with this have been on to VW to get some info but all they say is that I would invalidate my warranty and that VW UK has no intentions of offering the camera as a retro fit.

RW1 wrote:Nothing other than VAG is Volkswagen AG and they instisted in 2008 that Uwe Ross change the name of his product. Hence VCDS.

Two spots in the diagnostics where the Camera needs to be recognised.

Above RCD 510 - no VCDS runs on the laptop or Desk PC - ( with a very long lead!) after you have either downloaded it from Ross-Tech or a licenced franchise. Supplying on CD is most likely a pirate crack and fixed on a particular issue version. CD from ROSS TECH tends to be for multi loading of PCs in Workshops.

I've been involved with VAG-COM sine the prototypes v0.50 in May 2000. The only time you really need to change your lead with Ross Tech is when VW-Audi Group add another comms wire connection to the diagnostic connection. Thats happened once since year 2000. Also, as the VCDS software updates also update the firmware in the doggled plug head of the lead you buy. I'm on my third connection lead, only cos I have a prototype. Both the production leads are still in use. For the Scirocco, using v10.6.0. plus a HEX + CAN lead, Connection is your choice serial or USB.

C.

Thats cleard things up for me thank you. Think its time I got myself the Ross software and lead as there is a number of things i want to change

Peter

as you have the GT you will be able to change a certain amount without needing Vagcom/vcds (coming home/leaving lights, auto door locking off the top of my head plus others) so depends what you want to change
& blue is not wrong he just refers to it as vcds whereas others refer to it as vagcom

S

I've just had a look thro' my screen dumps I'm preparing for a manual.

Here are the two modules with Reversing Camera control settings.
(Bare in mind this is an October 2009 WK43 production build Scirocco with a RCD510, which would have "RVC" on its parts label on the side face)

The first is the RCD 510 controller - Module 52
The second place is in the CAN Gateway Controller - Module 19
C.

What I did was in module 37 Radio Navigation, set byte 3 bit 6 to enable.

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Erm hang on, i think your confused, i wrote The programming for the golf just involved telling the RNS that you had a camera installed with VCDS, the rest was running cables , and you do need VCDS to program it (VCDS is Vagcom), i never mentioned putting a CD in the headunit !!, im guessing you got this from the letters VCDS

peter.vw wrote:You are proberly right and its 182_blue that has it wrong or is confused, thanks for your help with this have been on to VW to get some info but all they say is that I would invalidate my warranty and that VW UK has no intentions of offering the camera as a retro fit.

RW1 wrote:Nothing other than VAG is Volkswagen AG and they instisted in 2008 that Uwe Ross change the name of his product. Hence VCDS.



C.

Thats cleard things up for me thank you. Think its time I got myself the Ross software and lead as there is a number of things i want to change

Thanks to all for your input, as you say TRIX that I have a number of options anyway think the best way for me to approach this is to go to my dealer and ask if I fit the parts would they program it for me, I did ask them last time in to turn on cornering fogs but they said they could not do it if not back to buying my own VAG COM

A good friend (Steve p) form the Mk5gti forum is picking all the parts up tonight for this upgrade and is looking at how it fits and how to wire etc etc, i will either report back for him or will get him on here

The wiring is not very difficult. It took me 5 minutes to guide the wire from the rns to the taillight. The only tricky part should be from the taillight and back.. Perhaps a rear bumper removal cannot be avoided.

182_blue wrote:A good friend (Steve p) form the Mk5gti forum is picking all the parts up tonight for this upgrade and is looking at how it fits and how to wire etc etc, i will either report back for him or will get him on here

You're probably aware Im making my car available to Steve next week, really loooking forward to getting this sorted, Ive tried Passat CC COntrollers with Tiguan cameras and kept getting software error codes.

Lots of faith in SteveP, Steve knows - could be on the final straight with this one

DaveB1970 wrote:

182_blue wrote:A good friend (Steve p) form the Mk5gti forum is picking all the parts up tonight for this upgrade and is looking at how it fits and how to wire etc etc, i will either report back for him or will get him on here

You're probably aware Im making my car available to Steve next week, really loooking forward to getting this sorted, Ive tried Passat CC COntrollers with Tiguan cameras and kept getting software error codes.

Lots of faith in SteveP, Steve knows - could be on the final straight with this one

No i didn't know whose car it was being done on , good luck, im looking forward to the results

Just had a pm about removing rear bumpers from mr p chaps

wigit wrote:Just had a pm about removing rear bumpers from mr p chaps

No chance avoiding this?

mantzas wrote:

wigit wrote:Just had a pm about removing rear bumpers from mr p chaps

No chance avoiding this?

hes trying to make it as easy as possible so we will see, for OEM fitment though it might need to come off

182_blue wrote:

hes trying to make it as easy as possible so we will see, for OEM fitment though it might need to come off

That's what I was talking about a few posts above. I just had a hope that it wouldn't be necessary!

I think it will be just about possible to route the cable down to the top of the number plate recess but to fix the camera mounting bracket properly and avoiding damaging anything else when making the hole for the camera will mean the bumper removal is the best way IMHO.

Compared to the install of the camera on the Mk5 Golf, popping a bumper off is very easy unlike the tailgate trim on the Golfs.