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Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:34 pm
by kodo28
The 3M1 part number doesn't existe at VW, I don't know here this part number came.

The retrofiting cable for scirocco doesn't exist, that's mean the cable for rear camera is included on an Master Central Cable on car...and to get the rear camera cable you need to change this master central cable. On Etka side no mention about witch cable it is :( :(
So to get this central cable a call from your VW dearler need to be done to the VW factory and ofcourse you will be asked to give your VIN number to see if your car came it rear camera before. And for sure this cable will cost you some money :faint:

The only possibility is on Kufatec side, cable will be available in 2 weeks :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info ... rocco.html

Hope all this information could help some of you :p
So forget the 3M1 part number...this number is not an VW number :mad:

Kodo28

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:13 pm
by Sootchucker
With all this talk of cable numbers and whats / whats not available, I know there are a few guys on here that have actually fitted the RVC to their scirocco's, so what exact parts have they used (surely that' s all we need ?)

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:47 pm
by mantzas
Sootchucker wrote:With all this talk of cable numbers and whats / whats not available, I know there are a few guys on here that have actually fitted the RVC to their scirocco's, so what exact parts have they used (surely that' s all we need ?)
mantzas wrote:I used camera 5 K0 980 551
cable 5M1 970 161 AC
4pin connector 3B0 972 722
repair wire 4x 000 979 131
And I'm waiting for 3 W0 807 151 and 3W0 807 210 B.. (the supports for the camera that go on the hole of the bumper)
I connected it to a Rns 510 ver B.

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:17 am
by BAIKAR
kodo28 wrote:The 3M1 part number doesn't existe at VW, I don't know here this part number came.

The retrofiting cable for scirocco doesn't exist, that's mean the cable for rear camera is included on an Master Central Cable on car...and to get the rear camera cable you need to change this master central cable. On Etka side no mention about witch cable it is :( :(
So to get this central cable a call from your VW dearler need to be done to the VW factory and ofcourse you will be asked to give your VIN number to see if your car came it rear camera before. And for sure this cable will cost you some money :faint:

The only possibility is on Kufatec side, cable will be available in 2 weeks :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info ... rocco.html

Hope all this information could help some of you :p
So forget the 3M1 part number...this number is not an VW number :mad:Kodo28
Looking at the link for the cable from kufatec this is the same as the cable you purchase from a dealer. You must also order the camera separately and no where does it mention a wiring loom for the camera. Before ordering I would ask them if there is any additional wiring necessary?

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:56 pm
by DAR
I am still waiting for the list of parts to make the boot loom.

However I used the camera and aerial wire that are in this list below. Camera is the top of the list and the aerial wire is the 5th. I don't know anything about this 3M1 wire.

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Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:00 pm
by DAR
Below is a list of the parts i used to make the camera fit my car,in italics is the plug and play loom parts. I don't have a diagram, but I am sure it was fairly easy to make up. You need to attach the live wire from made up loom and splice it to the live fly lead of the aerial cable.

I believe it to be fairly similar to this pic. (taken from My Gti site), however Roc has different connectors.

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5K0 980 551 x 1 - Camera

000 979 129 x 3 - repair Wires

000 979 133 E x 3 - repair wires

1J0 972 706 x 1 - Contact housing

191 972 716 x 1 - Connector housing

3B0 972 722 x 1 - Contact housing


5M1 970 161 AC x 1 - Aerial cable

3W0 807 210 B GRU x 1 - Support for camera (I sprayed this Rising Blue)

3w0 807 151 x 1 - End cap (l Shaped part - Bentley part so pricey!)

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:44 pm
by kodo28
BAIKAR wrote:
kodo28 wrote:The 3M1 part number doesn't existe at VW, I don't know here this part number came.

The retrofiting cable for scirocco doesn't exist, that's mean the cable for rear camera is included on an Master Central Cable on car...and to get the rear camera cable you need to change this master central cable. On Etka side no mention about witch cable it is :( :(
So to get this central cable a call from your VW dearler need to be done to the VW factory and ofcourse you will be asked to give your VIN number to see if your car came it rear camera before. And for sure this cable will cost you some money :faint:

The only possibility is on Kufatec side, cable will be available in 2 weeks :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info ... rocco.html

Hope all this information could help some of you :p
So forget the 3M1 part number...this number is not an VW number :mad:Kodo28
Looking at the link for the cable from kufatec this is the same as the cable you purchase from a dealer. You must also order the camera separately and no where does it mention a wiring loom for the camera. Before ordering I would ask them if there is any additional wiring necessary?
Like I said the retrofiting cable for the Scirocco camera (1K8) doesn't exist for remplacement at VW so you can not find it on dealer. The cable for camera is together with a central master cable on car, so if you want to have it you need to change the master cable.

To fit the Original Scirocco Camera 1K8.980.551 you will need :
Camera Scirocco OEM - 1K8.980.551
Cable From Kufatec - Available in 2 weeks
Support for camera - 3W0 807 210 B GRU
Cover for the Support camera (bentley Part) - 3w0 807 151
4pin connector 3B0 972 722
repair wire - 000 979 131 x4



To fit the Golf dumper Camera on you Scirocco you will need:
Camera Golf OEM 5 K0 980 551
Cable 5M1 970 161 AC
4pin connector 3B0 972 722
repair wire 4x 000 979 131
Cover for the Support camera (bentley Part) - 3w0 807 151
Support for camera - 3W0 807 210 B

And that all!!!

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:54 am
by pp601
Hi there, I'd ordered the kit from Kufatec however there's no installation manual in English format and I have no idea how to fix the VCDs set up. Assume all the wire are correctly fixed (one of the grey wire connected to Pin 28) but there is still no display.... does it also relate to the firmware version of the RNS510?

Kindly advise.

Thanks!!!

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:28 pm
by bianco
pp601 wrote:Hi there, I'd ordered the kit from Kufatec however there's no installation manual in English ...
Are there instructions in german? Then a joint forum effort might help :nod:

For VCDS instructions, see this
http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccop ... ing_Camera" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh, and it would be nice if You could update it ;)

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:19 pm
by BAIKAR
I too bought one of these cables. And yes the instructions are only in german. The PDF must be protected as google translate is not able to convert the german into English. I've typed the words into google line by line and got an idea of what it's talking about.

The cable seems to be made up by them rather than a cable that comes from vw. Instead of tapping into the cars wiring at the tail lights they have three wires that run the length of the car to connect at the dash. One ground, one 12v and the other signal wire. This is were the instructions are a bit un clear as it shows a plug from the cars loom being unplugged from under the steering wheel and then tapped into. I'm not exactly sure what this wire is or what signal it is sending ie reverse light, Gear selection.

I had hoped this would be a plug and play loom as I didn't want to cut into any of the cars wiring to fit the golf type camera but it seems it's not possible to retrofit any camera without tapping into the cars looms.

Pp601 sounds like you have done correct but just have to code the camera. If you get it working please lets us know and can you tell me where you made the other connections for ground and 12v?

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:36 pm
by bianco
Post a screenshot of the german text, or PM the pdf to me.

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:22 am
by jayahluwalia
Does anyone in London know how to do the install? (2010 MY2010 Scirocco)

I will provide all the parts as per the lists provided by DAR and SteveP, provide a good workspace (a garage in Wembley, I can provide transport if necessary) and any tools, paint etc needed for the job. All I want is someone to come and do the install properly, integrated with the RNS510 Unit.

Anyone interested?

Re: Rear View Camera Install

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:35 am
by Shaun
Have you asked stevep ?

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:41 am
by jayahluwalia
I thought he was in Birmingham...

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:00 am
by Shaun
jayahluwalia wrote:I thought he was in Birmingham...
Nope, Northhampton iirc but he works in central London

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:13 am
by jayahluwalia
I can't PM him because I'm a fairly new member. Could anyone PM me an email address?

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:03 am
by b0rk
Hrrm kyfataec appear to be offering a loom plus camera kit in addition to the loom seperately anyone tried the full kit yet? I assume the support bracket is not included and needs to be purchased from the dealers.

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Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:41 pm
by BAIKAR
Anyone had luck with the kufatec cable. I haven't had a chance to complete it yet.

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:33 pm
by bianco
Still nobody who managed to install the kufatec camera?

:?

Re: Rear View Camera

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:12 pm
by kodo28
I'm working on, but still have some problem with the image :mad:
Is my second camera, and same problem with it, wondering if is not the kufatec wire
like something is getting somewhere wrong contact,
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