Slipping Clutch, Or is it ????

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Richrush
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Slipping Clutch, Or is it ????

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Post by mattyfitz »

Same thing happend to me once i got a stage 1, diffidently the clutch.
Once mine started slipping i drove it carfelly for about a month before i got arounbd to getting one fitted.
Mine all in was £1300, Helix clutch with standard DMF from awesomegti £800 and about £500 in labour.
Im sure when i was researching that once its gone its gone even if you put it back to standard.
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Post by Technane »

Be careful if it's doing that, my old Golf GTI 1.8T did that clutch was doing it more and more to the point where to get it to the garage was a painful VERY VERY high rev run .... the pinging sound of that cooling when I stopped was Shocking
plus from first noticing to it actually becoming complete gone only took about a week.

best bit about that is, I then replace it with a SMF and a Sachs clutch - this lasted about a week, though, A pin split on the gearbox, shot through the wall of the bell housing and doused the new clutch in oil!

after that it was another new clutch - a new DMF and a new Gearbox!
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Post by Jake-w07 »

I'd say it was still clutch slip, give it time it will rear it's ugly head once again haha

Best off starting a clutch kit fund, I went for the helix set up on my manual R was under £750 posted from aks tuning then under £250 labour fitted from ade tuning

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Post by xjay1337 »

It was clutch slip, sometimes it may only happen in certain scenarios and not happen again for a while...
If it starts to happen again I would either

Have the car returned to standard
Have a custom map done that has a gentler torque curve
upgrade to a Helix Organic.
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Post by wigit »

My advice is do not ride the torque curve and use the increased power so change down a cog and use the gears, you become lazy driving mapped cars due to the mid range

Clutches seem to vary in how they respond to maps, on my Rocco i had clutch slip, it went away and then came back worse

In terms of clutches the Helix has a better pedal feel than the Sachs and I would call AKS tuning who will probably be better value than Awesome and do a better job putting it back together
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Is Helix OEM in feel/operation?
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3t3p wrote:Is Helix OEM in feel/operation?
It's a little bit heavier, but the feel and take up is very close to OEM.
The problem is you cannot simply have a clutch capable of dealing with the power and torque that isn't heavier in some way.

I have a 6 paddle Helix and lived with it daily. My Mrs who drives a 1.0 Vauxhall Viva manages with it totally fine.
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Thanks good to know if I ever have brave pills and do some tuning:p
Handling and stopping mods will come first though...

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Is it dsg? Mine did this and I had a new gear box as there was iron filings in the oil
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Bekki wrote:Is it dsg? Mine did this and I had a new gear box as there was iron filings in the oil
Going by his profile it's a manual box.
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