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Stu13R
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R driving advice

Post by Stu13R »

This is the first DSG gearbox car I have owned and I'd appreciate some advice.

I'd like to start by saying I'm overall very pleased with it and think it's really smooth. It is however very all or nothing between sport or standard drive. In D I was in 5th by 30 and this made it feel a bit slow when accelerating unless I pressed the pedal hard. I'm used to a remapped manual tdi that felt torquey mid range. In S it's great for going quick but keeps the revs very high.

What does everyone else do for normal driving where you go a bit quicker than average? Should I just be changing on the paddles?
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AxG
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Re: R driving advice

Post by AxG »

You'll probably never use sport mode, I haven't since the first time I tried it, I also very rarely use the paddles.

I tend to use fully auto for normal driving and nock across and use the stick to shift when overtaking etc.

I love DSG though, and will probably want it on my next car too.


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Phil
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Re: R driving advice

Post by Phil »

AxG wrote:You'll probably never use sport mode, I haven't since the first time I tried it, I also very rarely use the paddles.

I tend to use fully auto for normal driving and nock across and use the stick to shift when overtaking etc.

I love DSG though, and will probably want it on my next car too.


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Same here :)
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Re: R driving advice

Post by wigit »

I think it takes a good month to get used to dsg and its quirks when coming from a manual and then you refine your technique

D is essentially drive economically and you put your foot down to kick down, sport just holds the revs on peak power

I actually think getting the best out of these is using it in manual mode with the paddles when on the move, when the car is mapped and to not hammer clutch packs just drop it down a cog, using the stick (which to me has up and down the wrong way round) means slower changes for me and hands off the wheel

I tender to potter around town in D, then use manual when on the move to S

Only time i hate it is in manual it still up shifts or kicks down so oddly you can end up doing a double shift
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Stu13R
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I drive a: Scirocco R
In: Rising Blue
With a: DSG box
Options: Fully loaded including Recaro seats
20" Cades Shift alloys with 245/30/20 Michelin Cup Sport 2 tyres
VWR Tracksport Coilovers, anti lift, wishbones and engine/gearbox mounts
Turbo back BCS Sports Powervalve exhaust with race cat & wrapped downpipe
VWR air intake and Stage 2 APR map
Location: Southampton, Hants

Re: R driving advice

Post by Stu13R »

wigit wrote:I think it takes a good month to get used to dsg and its quirks when coming from a manual and then you refine your technique

D is essentially drive economically and you put your foot down to kick down, sport just holds the revs on peak power

I actually think getting the best out of these is using it in manual mode with the paddles when on the move, when the car is mapped and to not hammer clutch packs just drop it down a cog, using the stick (which to me has up and down the wrong way round) means slower changes for me and hands off the wheel

I tender to potter around town in D, then use manual when on the move to S

Only time i hate it is in manual it still up shifts or kicks down so oddly you can end up doing a double shift
Are you talking about having the gear stick over to the left in the + - part being manual and then using the paddles?
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Re: R driving advice

Post by wigit »

yep on the move to +/- and use the paddles, when i slow down or meet traffic just move it back to D

when you are on it is great using the paddles and when i thought it would not be involving it is just in a different way

i was a real die hard manual purist but now 95% of the time its DSG for me, I've still got a manual Polo that i use as a sh!tty for the city to remember what my left leg does, ironically that has a better manual box than all the VWs i've owned
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Re: R driving advice

Post by SMB »

The r has an old fashion turbo feel, and d constantly drops you off boost. Many people post about their dsg experiences with tdi's or tsi and those have much more linear power delivery.

D is fine for times when you don't want to press on , when in town, traffic etc. s is really a waste I find, and i use manual and paddles when I want to press on or override d with the paddles for 30 seconds. You can then keep the revs between 2-4k and the car makes rapid progress.

I wish that vw changed the gear change map as an option for owners of the r.
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I drive a: Scirocco R
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With a: DSG box
Options: Fully loaded including Recaro seats
20" Cades Shift alloys with 245/30/20 Michelin Cup Sport 2 tyres
VWR Tracksport Coilovers, anti lift, wishbones and engine/gearbox mounts
Turbo back BCS Sports Powervalve exhaust with race cat & wrapped downpipe
VWR air intake and Stage 2 APR map
Location: Southampton, Hants

Re: R driving advice

Post by Stu13R »

Thanks guys this all makes sense now.

The being off boost and The box changing up too quick made normal driving feel way more sluggish than my tdi. I did test drive the DSG Tdi but for me personally I preferred the manual as like Wigit Id previously been a die hard manual guy.

SMB you are right in saying there should be a map option change for R drivers or maybe an inbetween d and sport?

One thing I have noticed is the fuel consumption is way lower than they say. General local driving I'm around 20 and going on a 200 mile mainly motorway trip saw 31, is that pretty normal?
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Re: R driving advice

Post by wigit »

Its the same issue on the 7R in terms of mapping

Generally I find economy improves after about 5000 miles on these engines, however, they are about 10-15% thirstier than the engine in the GT so you are probably getting a sub 300 miles range

The point about boost is a good one as you can get caught napping with these engines if in the wrong gear given when the turbo kicks in, this is always similar to the Mk2 8V 16V debate
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