Who has/will try the HHO kit?

[Macman]

Due to the inevitable rise in fuel costs who has or will try this? http://www.hho2.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Figures show 90% (as opposed to fuel?) meaning it loses 10% power but how mpg?
A Tiguan already has but no comments have been made " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
VW did this on a larger scale with their Cup 24 Scirocco cars with tanks replacing the back seats.
It costs just £200 to £300 and requires an extra chip too.

The trouble is fuel will go up due to less demand if more use these! They also need to factor in the cost of decommissioning unused oil rigs. Now I'm surprised that some manufacturers are brave enough to embrace HHO kits as they are so cheap yet so little profit is in them but it has to happen sometime.

[maisbitt]

Electrolytical splitting of water into oxygen and hydrogen to recombust consumes more energy than it liberates, if it liberated more energy than it took in to allow the split to happen then we'd be creating energy - something we can't do. Whatever fuel gains could be made via reduction iin direct petrol/diesel fuelling will be eaten up by higher demand on the alternator for the electrolysis. Could it be a more efficient way of boosting power temporarily e.g. moderate throttle and temporary HHO feed to boost fuelling vs heavy throttle? Possibly, but doubtful.

[Macman]

Isn't the fuel already prepared? It's not like pouring water into the tank. But it's not a green method if they still need mostly fossil & nuclear energy sources for the power grid.

[Pablosammy]

Isn't the fuel already prepared? It's not like pouring water into the tank. But it's not a green method if they still need mostly fossil & nuclear energy sources for the power grid.

That's exactly what you're doing - you top it up with distilled water from time to time. You can't break the laws of thermodynamics, cracking water then recombining it can never create energy.

[Macman]

They say it can improve the engine efficiency by 20-30%
"1. Reduce your fuel spendings up to 30%. This is valid for both highway and town (city) driving conditions.
2. Increases the power and performance in your car. The more fuel you burn, the more the engine gets rattled up and wrecked. Once you switch to supplemental hydrogen, it will enhance power and performance in you car.
3. Reduces the CO2 emissions. Eliminating pollution and other harmful residues that our car engines produce. What´s wrong with doing also something good for the environment besides saving money?
4. Reduces the temperature in the engine. Also improves engine life-span since its burning fuel at a much cooler state.
5. Removes the carbon residues inside your engine and prevent future carbon deposits.
6. Lower noise and vibrations in the engine. Hydrogen effect in the combustion cycle. The engine will sound much quieter than it was before. This is due to higher combustion eficiency in your car.
7. Increases the life span of your engine."

The TSI produces lots of carbon deposits so it would be a good partnership for it. Where's proof against this?

This helps about this discussion " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; so it does need the chip else it recalculates out any gains after a few weeks.

This Passat 1.8 fails any increase as you say " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; even with a chip but 1 comment was to try reset the ECO before chipping it.

[b0rk]

The system doesn't work can't be bothered to explain why it just doesn't. The vendors will like all others selling this kit end up before trading standards to justify the claims or they'll disappear back into the ether.

The car manufacturers don't embrace this c p cause it doesn't work on a fundamental level.

quoting wikipedia cause I'm lazy and can't be arsed to explain thermodynamics and conservation of energy.

Hydrogen fuel enhancement from electrolysis (utilizing automotive alternators) has been promoted for use with gasoline-powered and diesel trucks, although electrolysis-based designs have repeatedly failed efficiency tests and contradict widely accepted laws of thermodynamics (i.e. conservation of energy).
Those unfamiliar with electrodynamics may not realize that the electrolytic cell drains current from a car's electrical system causing an increase in mechanical resistance in the alternator that will always result in a net power reduction. Since it requires more energy to separate hydrogen from oxygen than would be gained from burning the hydrogen produced in this method, the concept of such a device is often stated to be in direct violation of the first and second laws of thermodynamics.

[Macman]

Yet all it requires is an equal top up current from an untapped source, e.g.
1. In hot countries solar panelled roof as the Ausie invented above.
2. Wind power when moving via extra or existing air intakes.
3. An independent carry size battery or one which you plug into an outlet when at home.
4. Engine heat - this is a total waste as it stands.
5. Wasted energy in the suspension.
6. Exhaust fumes can be forced through a turbine.

There's plenty wasted constant resources that can be used for energy recovery.
What does it need just 2amps?
New Hydrogen engines can power a whole street!

[TriGGER]

Scares me wanting to put that in an engine I will stay wetter clear.

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