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Dash camera

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:03 pm
by Blom73
Hi all , has anyone fitted a mobius dash camera ? Best way to wire the to glove box ?

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:02 am
by KarmaSumatra
Yes, I have. My camera is to the left of the rear view mirror.

To run the USB cable I did the following:

Removed centre light.
Removed A pillar trim.
Pushed an unfolded wire coat hanger into the roof lining, from the centre light, towards the top of the A pillar (this took a few goes to get it to follow the right path).
Pulled a piece of string back with the hanger.
Used the string to pull the USB cable back.
Grabbed the roof lining just behind the rear view mirror wiring connection and pulled it down enough to poke the USB cable out (this needs a fair amount of force).
Replaced the centre light.
Taped the other end of the USB cable down the A pillar and dropped it into the fusebox area.
Replaced the A pillar trim.

This strategy is very similar to fitting the bluetooth microphone.

In the fuse box, I used a fuse tap and a 5v USB buck converter to connect the camera to the 12v accessory fuse. When I was researching this I found a post where someone claimed that the 12v accessory circuit doesn't go to 0v when the ignition is off, but instead sits at around 7v - I didn't find this to be true in my 2009 GT.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:56 pm
by RocPaperScissors
I also have done pretty much exactly as above in my facelift with the mobius, except it just ran it from the a pillar along the roof lining where it joins with the windscreen and poked it in with a bit of soft plastic and it comes out neatly hidden behind the rain sensor tubing. Take care when removing the a pillar, I murdered the little self distructing airbag cover and had to get a new one from the stealer for a few quid. The a pillar cover was also a right pain to get off for me, needed some serious force and remember the little clip in there.

I too have it hardwired with a step down module and add-a-fuse in one of the empty spots on the top row with a 3a fuse. Also no issues, I attacked mine with a multimeter to see which fuses came on when and their voltage, they all one I used is at 0 when the ignition is off. There are some that stay on, though.

Fantastic camera, great quality and tiny.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:25 pm
by KarmaSumatra
Interesting that you were able to push the cable into the gap between the lining and the glass. That's how I installed it on my previous car, but in my Scirocco the gap isn't big enough.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:35 am
by /////AMG
I also did the same as RocPaperScissors on how I installed my Mobius. The roof lining and the glass wasn't that bad you just have to be very careful.

However I wanted the camera to also record while I was away from the car and it was off. So I've got an external battery which is what it is connected to. It will last about 3 days and it is in use for about 9-10 hours a day.

The down side with this bigger Anker battery is that it doesn't charge while it is in use (where with my older Anker lipstick type 3000mAh - it did).

So I do tend to charge the current battery back (Anker 2nd Gen Astro E5 16000mAh) overnight every Wednesday.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:59 am
by dimexi
I am definitely looking to install a dashcam, I have been thinking about this for quite a while now, there are far too many crazy, sloppy and dangerous drivers in the south-west! It's like they skipped driving school round here.
I'm finding it quite hard to visualise the steps listed by Engram, but i will figure it out (I wrote the bluetooth fitting guide, and they seem to be similar).

Is Mobius the best on the market? I wouldnt mind one that used rechargeable batteries to be honest.

Has anyone got some pictures of the thing installed?

Do you really have to remove the A pillar?!?! I am not a fan of removing that airbag clip, I almost destroyed it the last time!!

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:08 pm
by easyrider
just a thought - how about using a go pro with suction mount? mine sits clear of the wiper area and behind the rear view mirror neatly (plus i use the blackout housing so no lights are visible) - plus you get a go pro to play with, and you can stick it anywhere for rolling shots etc.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:35 pm
by dimexi
easyrider wrote:just a thought - how about using a go pro with suction mount? mine sits clear of the wiper area and behind the rear view mirror neatly (plus i use the blackout housing so no lights are visible) - plus you get a go pro to play with, and you can stick it anywhere for rolling shots etc.
That's an interesting solution as well, neater too!
I assume there are different goPro versions? Which one do you have installed, and can you post a picture of it fitted to your rear view mirror? just to get an idea

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:02 am
by Jnorgate
I was thinking of installing the Cobra CDR 900 it looks quite neat and if I can get the wiring to be hidden I should hardly be able to see it.
Seem to be finding every idiot around driving with no brake lights plus the old man was smacked by a hit a run in his new A5 yesterday so I think it's worth getting one.

Regarding the GoPro does it have a time and date signature on the footage?

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:27 pm
by Blom73
After looking on some other site , it seems that if you hard wire to your fuse board your warranty is void . Apparently vw Germany won't change there stance on it and neither will vw uk .

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:59 pm
by Rob
Just use an add-a-fuse

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:23 am
by RocPaperScissors
Yeah I'll just be removing my add-a-fuse when it goes in for any work, just to be sure. As long as you're not directly messing with the fuse box who's to know?

Do you have to turn the go pro on/off manually? Or will it on/off when charging?

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:52 pm
by AdaaamB
I use this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-HD-8GB-D ... 3a8f0bbcd4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and it works perfectly. It turns off and on automatically and starts recording when you turn on your car. Easily can be removed and videos transferred via USB or Micro SD. When there's no space left on the card, it overwrites the oldest videos. It has a GSensor too with the option to auto lock videos so that they're not overwritten.

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Re: Dash camera

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:57 pm
by Tim4472
Hi all
Been following this post as I had my RoadHawk camera powered from the cigarette lighter and wanted a more permanent solution. Answer was a hard wire kit and a fuse tap and around an hour to fit to my satisfaction. Tucked the power cable along the top of the windscreen in the headlining and down the door pillar under the plastic trim but managed to feed it in by peeling back the rubber seal and then straight into the fuse box on the drivers side of the dash. Tapped into the 12V socket supply to get on and off with the ignition and all fitted. Got a few photos which may help if you are still considering fitting a camera.
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Re: Dash camera

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:06 pm
by Solosheep
I connected mine the same way as the above but the camera was always on :-(

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:29 am
by Solosheep
Anyone can offer advice?

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:51 pm
by RocPaperScissors
I used an empty slot top row (I think second from) left of the fuse box which is switched with ignition. I'll grab a photo tomorrow for you. If you can get a hold of a voltmeter it's pretty easy to find out.

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:38 pm
by Solosheep
That would be great thanks so much :)

Re: Dash camera

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:55 pm
by RocPaperScissors
Here you are. The add-a-fuse is in the top row 2nd from left. It was previously empty (facelift) and is switched. I have a 3a fuse in there and the small black box half hanging off where I knocked the tape is a 5V 3a step down module with two USB ports earthed to the chassis you can see top right wrapped in electrical tape.

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From the drivers side, you can't actually see it sitting in the drivers seat.
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And the passenger side. I do intend to tidy it up a bit, possibly using the 8 inch lens extension for the mobius and put the mobius out of sight, but for now it's fine.
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Re: Dash camera

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:31 am
by Solosheep
Thanks so much for this. Helped so much I had one of the larger add a fuse which did not seem to work I should expect a small version to arrive soon.once it does I will follow this same set up :) :)