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Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:27 am
by Malcolm
Anyone had an issue with a rattlywindscreen as the temp drops? Reckon is the awful plastic trim under the screen but local dealer wants to rip dashboard out!!!!

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:49 am
by adamj
My drivers side wiper rattles on the windscreen, could be that?

You can tell its the wiper as the rattle stops as the wiper is moving. Also when the car is stopped if your knock the windscreen with the side of your hand above the wiper you can here the rattle clearly comming from the wipers. Its really annoying me!!

Don't let them rip the dash out, I am sure that will just introduce more rattles.....

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:01 am
by Malcolm
I'll try some gaffer tape, only happens as temp drops so must be rubber hardening on blades.
Haven't let them loose of interiror yet, sure its something daft outside, I use rainex anyway so hardly use wipers which prob doesn't help.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:33 pm
by silver130
It's not the rubber on the windscreen wipers. It is the wipers themselves.
VW will fix it but but the result is normally that you will get the annoying smear right in your line of site on the drivers side of the screen.
Trust me . The rattle is nothing compared to the smear !! :grumpy: :grumpy: :grumpy:
I really wished i had not bothered now. Time to take it back AGAIN.
Just turn the stereo up :D

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:49 pm
by Andy-GTI
It is the plastic scuttle panel that rattles (the panel that covers the strut tops, and the wiper linkage). VW know about it, the fix is to use the felt tape on the scuttle edge to stop it rattling.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:52 pm
by Malcolm
Thrown back at VW Citygate and they still reckon no info at VW, want to road test it. Have said happy to try your suggestion before ripping dash out...... over my dead body!

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:06 pm
by Andy-GTI
Fix it yourself.

Either get some felt strip from VW, or use the soft side of some adhesive backed velcro.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:37 am
by andres
This was a solution for me... inserted a piece of foam under the plastic cover under the bonnet.. fixed it.. the plastic rattles when in contact with the metal.


http://picasaweb.google.si/andrej.kirm/ ... directlink" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hope this helps!

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:44 am
by Malcolm
Appreciate the pics! I'm using the van this week, will dig it out from under its cover at the weekend and have a play.....

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:10 pm
by RW1
Decided to investigate this problem today. Although I didn't have the problem (yet!), what I found was mine was close to doing it.

So what's causing it? The scuttle cover is contacting the inner wing bodywork suspension turret area. See first photo, contact points are the red arrows. It can happen on both sides of the car but it seems the driver's side skuttle panel covering the wiper motor is much closer to the inner wing.

This is how I fixed it. Take the rubber skuttle/engine bay seal aside. Lift the skuttle panel. You will see the skuttle panel has a right angled (90') edge. It is this edge that contacts the bodywork. Cut a small piece of Velcro felt pad and stick it in th earea where the skuttle panel contacts the inner wing suspension turret bodywork.

(My photo shows a piece of anti-squeak tape under the velcro pad in the event if the pad wears through to protect the paint, not absolutely necessary.)

C.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:47 pm
by adamj
I have padded mine out as above and even pushed foam right up to where it meets the windscreen as I could hear the plastic rattle on the metal when I tapped it, I was convinced that was the cause, but...........

Still rattling! I am now convinced its the drivers wiper rattling on the windscreen as the rattle stops when the wipers are on and starts as soon as they come to rest.....

I am sure its related to the smear and I am sure its getting worse! Not sure what to do - new wiperblade??

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:18 pm
by Malcolm
Rainex and tape the wipers down!! On a serious note I've used rainx for around 20 years and just swear by it, reapplying monthly.
Luckily I've had no smears, just wondering what you guys who get smears are washing vehicle with? The shampoo I use has a water softner in it plus the rainx means there is very little drag on the glass, with hard water and no rinse aid (which itself can smear as its fatty acid)
You may create friction, drag and smear......... Just thoughts.
I've forwarded above to my local dealer who are still not admiting to VW knowing about it! Madness, 3 people is enough let alone several hundred that must be in same boat.
Also do you use a synthetic chamois or oiled leather skin?

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:47 pm
by RW1
adamj wrote:I am sure its related to the smear and I am sure its getting worse! Not sure what to do - new wiperblade??
Adam,
From your early posts on here, can't exactly establish the build week of your Scirocco but at Wk43 they have fitted to my Scirocco the latest standard "E" version of the wipers, so a new one from the dealer is only the same.

Posted here on this matter tonight.
http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/forum/ ... 5&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Malcolm wrote:On a serious note I've used Rainx for around 20 years and just swear by it, reapplying monthly.
Same – 20 years, and is on the Scirocco at the moment with no problems.

C.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:12 am
by adamj
Adam,
From your early posts on here, can't exactly establish the build week of your Scirocco but at Wk43 they have fitted to my Scirocco the latest standard "E" version of the wipers, so a new one from the dealer is only the same.
Hi,
Not sure on a build week, but mine is one of the first Scirocco's - it was registered in Nov 08 so it has the first wiper type (but dealer did replace the drivers blade in Dec 08)

So it maybe worth me trying a Jetta wiper or an aftermarket one:

http://www.wiperblades.co.uk/vw-scirocc ... 8&Ref=prod" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure if this will solve my issues though, apprecite your thoughts.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:56 am
by RW1
Ah, had thought your Scirocco was this year (2009), not last, so it won't have the "E" version (Jetta version) of wipers. Note above what my local Parts Dept received from VW UK. Will post hopefully later today how I get on. They are a very helpfull bunch and didn't hesitate on Wednesday to order another one for this morning.

C.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:29 am
by Malcolm
Supposedly this all sorted very much with your help and excellent pics - thankyou! There is info on VW database they just hadn't looked properly. - beleave the felt has a part number but I got no paperwork on collection.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:53 am
by RW1
:yes:

Believe the felt will most likely be VW part number 533 867 910A from Mk2 Sciroccos. Seems to find it's way onto a lot of VW's since squeaks and rattle points identified in production assembly. The pad version appears to have gone obsolete, so it's just a matter of cutting the tape version to size.

They won't list the part number cos it comes in 8.80m rolls and units of 25 off, so a tad much in cost and quantity for you and me! Best to blag some when one is in the dealers.

The individual use solution is to use black Velcro "fur" side tape or pads.

C.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:19 am
by archebald23
im considering getting after market body parts myself, the parts quoted from my vw dealer are too expensive. do you think i can get the "E" version from aftermarket shops?

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:25 pm
by VW TT
old post now I think but for what its worth I have had this rattle, so checked out the guide above and went to fit some felt strip, only to find there is already a foam pad in place on both sides. But I still have a rattle. Definately goes when the wipers are in motion. I did tell them when I took it for a service a few weeks back, but they said they couldn't find the fault. Maybe they stuck the pads on? Either way the rattle is still there and still annoying. Has anyone found a fix cause the pads definately don't work.

Re: Rattly Windscreen

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:05 pm
by RW1
When I did mine above, I did it as a precaution. Not until afterwards did I realise I had a slight rattle noise by its' absence!

I found where to put the pad (passenger side was/is OK) by gentlely tapping the plastic cover panel and listening to see if it impacted the bodywork. Where I placed the little Velcro felt pad in the photo above, a distinct contact with the bodywork could be heard. After fitting it wasn't apparent, just a dull thud.

Maybe worthwhile just tapping the whole panel and seeing if it still is able to contact the bodywork somewhere. The other contact point I've noticed is the verical end face edge onto the top of the driver's side outer wing.

If not these, and nothing else found by tapping, then you know the panel isn't the source.

There was a rattle problem with early Sciroccos which VW had issued a fixing kit. Page 4 on here posts about it. It was also a known issue in Germany on early Sciroccos. This "I think" is the felt "fix" they have applied to yours. The comment I'd make is that I tried foam and it didn't stop it, nor did cloth tape or felt when I investigated mine. I ended up with the Velcro pad on top of a piece of anti-squeak tape as that deaden the contacting altogether.

http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/forum/ ... een+rattle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

C.